Hour 2 – Politics

March 7, 2020
Full Second Hour
Carole Liberman, M.D., MPH is not only a Board Certified Psychiatrist, with a Master in Public Health, she’s a recipient of an NIMH Fellowship in epidemiology for her UCLA research on how to use the media to prevent and treat physical and mental disorders. Dr. Liberman also does a pod cast entitled “Terrorist Therapist” She has appeared on Fox News’ CBS; NBC; and, other television networks.
Dr. Frieda Birnbaum is a regular daily guest on numerous television and radio stations including The Korelin Economic Report which airs on two dozen AM and FM radio stations. Her practice is located in Manhattan and she is the author of numerous best selling books including:
  • Segment 1 – Dr. Carole Liberman MD discusses the real danger of the Coronavirus.
  • Segment 2 – Dr Liberman continues her discussion of the Coronavirus and the Corona Stress Syndrome.
  • Segment 3 – Big Al and Lt. Col (Ret) Jim McKinney discuss Chuck Schumer.
  • Segment 4 – We discuss the rationale behind why people come to the conclusions that they do in the political arena.

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Segment 2
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Segment 4
    Mar 07, 2020 07:18 AM

    If everyone who had a severe case of Coronavirus or resultant complications were treated in a specialist ICU bed then I’m sure the mortality rate would be low, however no country has enough ICU beds or medical staff to do that so the mortality rate will be much higher. That’s the big issue with this virus. South Korea, Singapore and Hong Kong are showing how this should be dealt with, the US and Europe through a mixture of hubris and stupidity are way behind the curve and I think it’s frankly shocking and we will all pay the price.

      Mar 07, 2020 07:58 AM
        Mar 07, 2020 07:18 AM

        Thanks Larry, I am, by the way, taking your “camp” a lot more seriously than I have in the past. Keep your comments coming!

      Mar 07, 2020 07:06 AM

      a scientist assimilating info. in order to help you think correctly..not incorrectly per dr./dr. BS anti-science..

        Mar 07, 2020 07:21 AM

        I have to point out that everyone with whom I have talked within this venue has said exactly the same thing only not quite as dramatically. What do you think about what Dr. Liberman had to say on KER Politics, segments five and six? Remember, my friend, let’s keep personal panic out of this equation.

      Mar 07, 2020 07:16 AM

      Nigel, as a previous pandemic specialist stated on our Show, “The U.S. is woefully unprepared for a pandemic of this nature. Too bad, be really careful as we are!

        Mar 07, 2020 07:20 PM

        Thanks Al, all we can do now is be as careful as possible. I’m sure most people who come to this site will be much better prepared than the average person

      Mar 07, 2020 07:42 AM

      Over two weeks ago, when China was barely reporting statistics, one of the first reports that came out of Wuhan, was that over 70 HOSPITAL WORKERS HAD DIED. This was at a point when less than a 1,000 had died world wide.
      If you are telling me that in the early days these hospital workers did not get the best treatment available…..I think you’re wrong.
      The fact that neither of your professionals have brought up the age dependence, TELLS ME THEY ARE JUST PLAIN IGNORANT about the specifics of the virus.

      I Take the kill rate as a rate at which those that get symptoms actually die, not as a percentage of the population.
      I feel absolutely no panic about the virus, but I am very concerned that I have the most accurate information possible.

      If you are going to wait until you hear that the corona virus is on your block, it is my believe you are just too late. To the best of my knowledge the incubation period is up to 27 days, although the average is 6-9 days AND I DON’T RULE OUT DOUBLE INFECTION causing the 27 day apparent day incubation (I.e. a reinfection).

      The WHO currently has identified two distinct strains “S” and “L”.

      I believe their are currently 4 mutated strains, of which the predominant strain in Italy is extremely concerning.
      Not only is it more virulent, it appears to be slighlt more lethal.

      Current Stats for Italy:
      confirmed infected 4,636
      Dead 197
      Recovered 523

      Mar 07, 2020 07:25 PM

      A good summary:

      But no one should try to claim covid-19 is not a bioweapon. My mind is made up on that one.
      The Chinese would never have gone into total panic mode otherwise.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:48 AM

    Do you hire an interior decorator to build your house?…I trust real scientists and virologists to analyze COVID 19 genetically engineered bio weapon escaped trajectory….
    Not the most fake phony players in the Rockefeller allopathic medical monopoly cartel such as mainstream conventional conforming psychologists and psychiatrists……as you see, ‘corona virus stress syndrome’ is made up fake science right out of their playbook…..False players exploiting you lack of science knowledge…

    An actual virologist speaking plain..
    I cannot understand how KER is always on the wrong side of reality…I mean this seriously and honestly….One should prepare in ways beyond the DR. / Dr. simpleton descriptions…

    I am not stressed at all..As an Alpha male and I detect danger and wish to protect my family from this tiger…That is simple sound reasoning….Not big city vague BS doctors know nothings…I have a masters in biochemistry and so I understand they took none or took a quarters worth and multiple choice BS test out…Know nothings that hurts to listen too….I listen in total amazement of their combined ignorance and pure unsubstantiated speculations…Fakes

      Mar 07, 2020 07:26 AM

      Hi again Larry, I don’t find anything ignorant about what Dr. Frieda; Dr. Carole; and Jim had to say about “using common sense and keeping a cool head”. They also stressed the fact that we currently have to accurate ideas about the actual numbers of cases. I, personally, guarantee that number will become much larger and I am simply thinking clearly and using common sense as you seem to be.

        Mar 07, 2020 07:28 AM

        Thank you b, common sense prevails and fear should not!

        Mar 07, 2020 07:28 AM

        Change “to accurate” to “no accurate”

        Mar 07, 2020 07:44 PM

        I never commented ever about your questions or Jim’s comments….I am opposed to the fake twisted false truths your shrink and psych. vocalize as if it is valid real and sound….My point remains they work for the medical cartel as tools and as such they misrepresent truth to protect their money flow…Just stooges for the system…I was in medical business…These players are a dime a dozen and you roll them out as sincere valuable sources of info…I have posted valuable info and it is not a dating expert or shrink regarding virology issues….It is virology experts and vetted scientists and you only focus on the sites name?…Americans are loosing it…SAD

    Mar 07, 2020 07:56 AM
    Mar 07, 2020 07:29 AM

    Seg 2……..Ditto on the stress……..will kill you…… relax……and think pooh……..
    Avoid nasty people……lol

      Mar 07, 2020 07:49 AM

      Agree Jerry,
      Fear is the mind killer – stress is the body killer. Media/politicians create fear to sell their agendas for profit. Beware the false profits of doom.

        Mar 07, 2020 07:56 PM

        The problem is biocontainment hospital beds.

        If you run out of hospitalization capability, the DEATH RATE APPEARS TO ALMOST TRIPLE.

        (I am well above the cut-off age.)
        I am projecting this in about 3 months.
        Sorry….please don’t kill the messenger.

          Mar 07, 2020 07:47 PM

          CFS………YOU ARE IN OVERKILL……….just saying…..stop scaring everyone…..calm down and drink some red wine…..

            Mar 07, 2020 07:23 PM

            The virus infections, without actions, double every week…..take a guess at how many infections there will be in 3 months. Go on, work it out, first by back-testing, then by projecting into the future.
            Then you might begin to understand the Chinese actions.
            They know it is a bioweapon that escaped the lab, or they would not be in outright panic mode. Don’t judge the Chinese by what they say….judge them by their actions.

            Mar 07, 2020 07:37 PM

            I posted an article concerning the amount of potential deaths…..
            it, went something like this………
            there are 285,000 births a day…….the virus will kill over the duration…a total
            that will equal TWO MONTHs of BIRTH ……….I will see if , I can find the post…
            So, 285,000 x 60 days…..

            Mar 07, 2020 07:09 PM

            there are approx. 7 billion people in the world….kill rate is .0023 so, that is about 17 million approx.
            Which I pointed out to OWL…….we have killed 60,000,000 babies….via Planned parent “hood”……..You should be OUTRAGED by THAT……..JMO

            Mar 07, 2020 07:11 PM

            Dig a little deeper into THE GATES FOUNDATION………

    Mar 07, 2020 07:11 AM

    It’s amazing how many people who have employee dental plans and free health care never use these services. Instead they self diagnose themselves often by using the internet preferring to believe that they can be their own medical and dental practitioner. I see this in my own family all the time. Our government is allowing people who are infected with the coronavirus to self isolate themselves in their home. I wonder how this will work out as most people think only about themselves and not about the common good.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:35 AM

    Going forward the phony shrinks world will blame the death levels on’ Corona Virus Stress Syndrome”…..In effect blaming it on the victims mental outlook rather than than the lying inept government medical cartel response to the bio-weapon…….Just watch these fraudsters work the coverup…and a few percentage of folks will by it and the fake story will add to the chaos in the blame game….Chaos is very effective tool for the medical cartel…Disrupts clarity regarding their chronic historic criminal incompetency…They have cured no diseases in the last 100 years and will not cure this bio-weapon….In fact all disease categories have blossomed under their allopathic doctrine…But they recommend hugs… cannot make this farce up…lol

      Mar 07, 2020 07:44 AM

      No offence but there has been progress made by pharmaceuticals and the medical field.

      Here are a few examples.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:40 AM

    Diseases cured in the last 100 years

    Eradicated diseases

    Poliomyelitis (polio)
    Lymphatic filariasis.

    Im sure there is corruption with pharmaceuticals, but Im glad to have mine.

    I can see americans not going to doctors or hospitals because of the virus, health care can cause bankruptcy in the states.
    That will hinder the eradication of the virus.

      Mar 07, 2020 07:55 AM

      I don’t believe a single disease has been cured in the last 50 years despite the trillions spent on medical research and health care. The whole system is corrupt.

        Mar 07, 2020 07:30 AM

        Of course, part of the system is corrupt, Eddie! That is the nature of the beast!

          Mar 07, 2020 07:38 PM

          The system is born of corruption and exploitation…That is fact not drama…5th posting..the history of Rockefeller allopathic medical monopoly cartel…But if you disagree then it is drama I guess..

          The history goes on and on with every betrayal of the public health for profits….This is a starter course for beginning the journey down the road of complete total medical corruption and public usury for accelerating profits in the medical monopoly cartel….

            Mar 07, 2020 07:34 PM

            Everything is corrupt.

            Especially since 1913, but the word of the U.S. government was no good from the beginning.
            Never has the U.S. government been trustworthy.

            Might be easier to list the institutions that have not been corrupt in some way.

            Even tho thats the case, some good gets thru.

            Mar 07, 2020 07:07 PM

            Yes, if you have a corrupt banking system you have corrupt money and that means you WILL have a corrupt country and society. Every institution in this country is corrupt.

            Mar 07, 2020 07:26 PM

            Check out the quotes…..of famous men…….concerning banking….

            Mar 07, 2020 07:29 PM

            I like this time period…….quotes….
            If, you use the DEBT CLOCK INFO……
            check at the top of the page…..for different time period…..
            Like tell me BANKERS ARE NOT CROOKS……Usury….BONDAGE……BOYZ…….

            Mar 07, 2020 07:40 PM

            Good stuff, Jerry.

            Mar 08, 2020 08:01 AM

            ebo…….thanks………hope you enjoyed……..

      Mar 07, 2020 07:56 AM

      And what the hell is wrong with Canadians? This is outrageous.

        Mar 07, 2020 07:32 AM

        Kathy and I were just discussing that question last night, Eddie!

          Mar 07, 2020 07:36 PM

          Dont blame Canada, Canada is a vassal state simply taking orders.
          Blame the U.S. or Israel for directing the U.S.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:59 AM

    I can re post the info. if you wish…But America is a post health nation..We now have over 50% of the population under Rockefeller allopathic medical monopoly care for an avoidable reversible chronic degenerative illness…The medical community stands by in silence raking in those profits…That is my reference….The big money is in that…Cancer, diabetes, pulmonary, heart disease,auto immune, autism and spectral disorders…That is what the focus is on…As a note..The biggest modern cause of polio is CDC confirmed use of modern polio vaccines….Just trying to keep the non miracle of BS allopathic medicine in focus…Pure exploitation of peoples lack of knowledge plus fear…Also, what what Allopathic medicine cartel names as a cure most common sense folks would not see in that way…Most people are health cripples from Allopathic medicine….

    Mar 07, 2020 07:17 AM

    again a real virologist speaking and not a quack shrink regarding the Corona virus biologic weapon escape trajectory….
    Dr. Francis Boyle, nothing fake about this gifted virologist..

    Mar 07, 2020 07:20 AM
      Mar 07, 2020 07:38 AM

      Jerry, the corona virus is nothing to sneeze at…

    Mar 07, 2020 07:56 AM

    summary of the corona numbers…the most important info….valid

      Mar 07, 2020 07:35 AM

      Kind of hard for me to take a website call Banned Video seriously. Sorry!

        Mar 07, 2020 07:24 PM

        I value a site by its content not its name….Hard to take serious a site letting psychs of any color commenting on virology….That site hosts serious scientists not dating experts ….If you cannot determine that, it is ok with me…..

        Mar 07, 2020 07:04 PM

        Al, it is hard for me to take anything seriously that is said by the CDC or FDA. They are sock puppets for big pharma, as RFK, Jr. has discovered after several years of study.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:34 AM

    There are always consequences in life. China banned the Bible last year. Just saying.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:54 AM

    French parliament: (Assembly)
    2 confirmed cases, 5 more suspected.
    That’s going to stop politicians shaking hands !

    Mar 07, 2020 07:00 PM

    In England if you have someone close die from covid-19, you are ordered to self-isolate….
    Given self-isolation violation now comes with fines and possible imprisonment….how can you arrange a funeral ?
    (Somehow politicians did not think this one thru’ ?

    Mar 07, 2020 07:16 PM

    Italians have spread the disease to Malta and the Czech Republic, and even Papa seems concerned about God’s ability in this one.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:20 PM

    In cyprus, a divided I sland it used to be easy to cross the Red zone; from Greek to turkish side or vice versa. No more:

    Mar 07, 2020 07:29 PM

    You will not agree with this scientists data and analysis…You will agree with ‘corona virus stress syndrome’….Pure made up playing with dolls reasoning?
    Makes more sense that the dating experts virology analysis or the Virus syndrome prevention

    Mar 07, 2020 07:13 PM

    On February 23, 2020 at 6:10 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    On February 22, 2020 at 6:33 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    Finally…………………….GATES is the instigator…………
    Bill and Melinda Foundation just so happen to fund the group who owns the patent to the deadly coronavirus and are already working on a vaccine to solve the current crisis……hmmmmm !!!!

    Mar 07, 2020 07:15 PM

    THIRD TIME IS A CHARM…………..I posted several times…….some of you might want to read the info…..just saying….

    Mar 07, 2020 07:55 PM

    On KER, loony psychiatrist describing the value of hugs as a serious approach to remedying a global bio-weapon not so bad pandemic….lol

    Psychologist argues that a bio-weapon of corona type is not as bad as a common flu….
    This is the charade of eminent? professionals…. Is ok to keep defending this pseudo-medical irrationality…It is humorous now but then deny they said this after it is clear they are loony tunes….Like the next

    If I ran a business making rockets and someone said they were a dating expert , could you hire me, would I care to listen to that madness?…If I ran a business making rockets and someone said they knew nothing about the making of a rocket,could you hire me,would I care to listen to that madness?
    The psych. is a dating expert commenting on virology…I kid you not…lol
    The psychiatrist is a public health tool commenting as a virology expert complete with a syndrome to blame the patient for becoming sick…I kid you not…lol

    Proving we are all having our opinions expressed…Even if not serious in nature…First amendment rights and welcome…KER is awesome for enabling freedom of expression…..

    Mar 07, 2020 07:19 PM

    China ! Virus inters Beijing and Shanghai !

      Mar 07, 2020 07:01 PM

      The Corona V ! is the Catalyst to monopolaze all we have in the Internet prison ! It’s a JOKE ! Humanity Wake Up ! A prison is no funny !

    Mar 07, 2020 07:07 PM
      Mar 07, 2020 07:58 PM

      US healthcare swamped by mid-May?

    Mar 07, 2020 07:51 PM

    The psychiatrist who helps decide things like how many PPM Fluoride should be allowed in the water supplyin order to dumb the public down…Actually thinks she should have a voice in topics like Virology pandemics…This shows the detachment from reality…

    The psychologist who is a dating expert is willingly giving advise on how corona-19 virus is not even worse from a common flu…..An insult to virologists worldwide…She should apologize and play dolls with the Psychiatrist…
    Both are detached from reality..Listen to their advise with extreme caution….or better, do not listen…overrated trumped up fools occupy industries nation wide especially in government unaccountable bureaucracies…done for a while with this simpy madness…you know how I think…Virologists should determine the probabilities associated with viral encounters certainly not any form of delusional quack shrinks…
    But the fact that they do on any level speaks volumes about their detachment from reality…

      Mar 07, 2020 07:46 PM

      Great comments that make ‘real’ sense.

    Mar 07, 2020 07:14 PM

    The great Dees sums it up…

    Mar 07, 2020 07:43 PM

    We are told that the transmission of the Corona virus is via ACE2 receptors.
    I am not a virologist or an M.D., but I like the Gedenken process.
    Suppose the transmission of the virus (the probability of getting the virus is proportional to the ACE2 receptor cells you have.
    Obviously transmission is dependent on the giver of the virus, how many there are and how they give it. But let’s look at the receiver’s end.
    Do eifferent people have different quantities of ACE2 cells ?
    Yes smoker have roughly twice as many in their lungs as non-smokers.
    Men have roughly twice as many as women.
    Asians ave about 3 times as many as Caucasians.
    So, if fou’re a smoking, male Asian, tough luck.
    But if you’re a non-smoking, Caucasian female. Hey,baby, You’re looking good.

      Mar 08, 2020 08:50 AM

      CFS, great research…Thanks

    Mar 08, 2020 08:51 AM

    Trump Is Counting on the Supreme Court to Save Him

    fwiw more Supreme Court mayhem on the way

    Mar 08, 2020 08:57 AM

    Good luck Oakland, the Grand Princess will put you in the headlines.

    Mar 08, 2020 08:39 AM

    Israel does not as policy over react…They react pro actively in order to survive…I trust Israeli policy more than phony American whore MD’s or worse, advise or propaganda….

    Mar 08, 2020 08:06 AM

    I believe that President Trump is being deliberately misled by H.H.S. and C.D.C. officials.
    The real question is whether this action is deep state action to deliberately designed to undermine the President of whether it is CYA action to cover gross incompetence.
    I guess it could be a mixture of the two.
    It only goes to prove, however, that Government is generall not the solution, but it usually is the problem.

      Mar 08, 2020 08:20 AM

      Misled? Na…our overweight, blubbering president whose uncle attended MIT would surly have detected that long ago. What we’re learning is that appointments made for political reasons instead of expertise gets one in trouble. Who made the disastrous decision for the US to develop their own test for the virus instead of using the WHO version? This set us back by 6 weeks or so. Our government’s response is akin to that of IRAN’s. Their’s was caused by religious zealots; ours by political hacks. Who would have guessed at the first of the year, this quarter would begin the downfall of the great trump experiment? IMO it’s all over but the cryin’!

        Mar 08, 2020 08:04 AM

        That’s funny SilverDollar.
        Trump and the patriots (like Q and J Assange) are taking down the deep state and exposing EVERYONE…
        Exposing the corrupt, and exposing the duped/lost/indoctorinated/blind.

    Mar 08, 2020 08:19 AM

    Stay calm and remember what JFK said before he went to Dallas, “We have nothing to fear but fear itself.” Laughter is the best medicine, and try to hug a dozen people a day
    as Dr. Liberman advises. And take 5 grams of vit C a day and get some sunshine. Avoid sugar!

    Mar 08, 2020 08:57 AM

    Must listen: https://Imported From
    Reports 2nd Straight 1,000+ Jump In Cases As Deaths Soar 60%; Israel Weighs Ban Of All Foreigners: Live Updates

    Mar 08, 2020 08:08 AM
    Mar 08, 2020 08:29 PM

    It’s not clear to me why Italy is different:

    This is an incredible increase in numbers even for someone who understands exponential growth characteristics.
    This different
    Either a bad mutation.
    Or a country that for some reason has very abnormal high risk.

    Mar 08, 2020 08:44 PM

    The number of people to have died from the coronavirus in Italy has shot up by 133 in a day to 366, officials say.
    The total number of infections leaped 25% to 7,375 from 5,883, according to the Civil Protection agency.

    An INCREASE in Deaths by 133 to 366 means that 24 hours ago the death toll was 233.

    133/233 is a 57% increase in deaths overnight.

    When you have a doubling in deaths from 1 person dying going from 1 dead to 2 dead that’s a 100% increase, but not very statistically meaningful.

    When you have a 57& increase in deaths when you have 133 dead, that IS VERY STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

    Or, what I hope and pray is true….Italians got their numbers wrong.
    E.g. there were deaths that happened earlier that were reported at the right time.

    Mar 08, 2020 08:50 PM

    For those interested in the next economic bubble that is a result of the geopolitics being full of it, and from the Coronavirus, it is TOILET PAPER.

    > Panic Buying At Supermarkets Over Coronavirus Concerns

    Shoppers rush to buy Toilet Paper, Oil, Flour and Milk

      Mar 08, 2020 08:52 PM

      Toilet Paper Shortage From Coronavirus Panic Buying Sees Fight Break Out

      ABC News – March 6, 2020 #VIDEO

        Mar 08, 2020 08:56 PM

        Coronavirus Panic: Why Are People Stockpiling Toilet Paper?

        BBC News – by Frances Mao • March 4, 2020

        “Perhaps the worst doomsday scenario is this: being stuck on the toilet and finding you’re down to the last square.”

        “At least that appears to be the nightmare prospect scaring many Australians right now, who have become the latest group to respond to coronavirus fears by buying toilet paper en masse.”

          Mar 08, 2020 08:58 PM

          Why People Are Buying So Much Toilet Paper Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

          By Yaron Steinbuch – March 4, 2020

            Mar 08, 2020 08:00 PM

            @SotalyTober – “Don’t get complacent but Coronavirus in perspective”


            “Malta saw scenes of panic, right out of World War Z yesterday as people raided supermarkets in search of the final roll of toilet paper, and the last packet of Galletti.”

            @Obristbergmeister – “Why is everyone going mental about tolietpaper ? I’d assume it’s made on a printing press that can be put on high at any moment. Have we ever had a tolietpaper shortage? This seems like an easy thing for humans to make.”

            @Stigswigs – “@Obristbergmeister you sound like a man who is sitting on an abundance of toilet paper!”


            Mar 08, 2020 08:02 PM

            Apparently there is not much interest in the resource stocks any more, and everything has shifted to an interest in the new hot commodity #ToiletPaper.

            Many of the grocery stores around us have completely sold out of TP, and family members texted us that it was the same near them.

            If this keeps up nobody will have a square to spare.

            > I Don’t Have a Square to Spare #VIDEO


            Mar 08, 2020 08:02 PM

            This old post predicting that #ToiletPaper would be important in the next market crash looks like a pretty good call now. 🙂


      Mar 08, 2020 08:10 PM

      Thanks for informing me Mosta has a Lidl’s. That’s worth knowing, even though Mosta is in the center of the Island. The Maltese obvious prefer low-priced German toilet paper.
      Note that report is 13 days old…..I imagine the store is stripped bare by now.

        Mar 08, 2020 08:02 PM

        Yeah, but the Aussie toilet paper fight in the grocery store was just 2 days ago, and some grocery stores around me ran out of TP over the weekend.

        Even my lady came home last week with all these extra toilet paper packages, and said, “I know you think I’m crazy, but everyone else was buying it out, so I thought it was a good idea to get some extra just in case places are out for while.” I just shook my head and smiled at her and said, “Thanks sweetie,” if the world comes to an end, at least we’ll be able to wipe our hind ends in comfort.