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Has the Governor of Washington State overstepped his authority?

Big Al
June 25, 2020
We ask the question, “What about people simply using their own common sense”?
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    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:05 AM

    Here is the latest published data on Covid-19 in Washington state:

    https://www.doh.wa.gov/emergencies/coronavirus

      Jun 25, 2020 25:18 AM

      I really appreciate this information.

      Jun 25, 2020 25:25 PM

      The easy answer is—Hell yes!

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:17 AM

    Confirmed Cases, Hospitalizations and Deaths by County
    County Confirmed Cases Hospitalizations Deaths
    Adams 109 8 0
    Asotin 20 1 2
    Benton 1,524 189 76
    Chelan 293 19 6
    Clallam 33 3 0
    Clark 671 99 30
    Columbia 8 1 0
    Cowlitz 153 18 0
    Douglas 205 12 3
    Ferry 1 0 0
    Franklin 1,406 130 31
    Garfield 0 0 0
    Grant 414 37 6
    Grays Harbor 24 8 0
    Island 188 32 12
    Jefferson 35 7 0
    King 9,453 1,738 604
    Kitsap 198 28 2
    Kittitas 109 3 0
    Klickitat 55 8 3
    Lewis 52 13 3
    Lincoln 2 0 0
    Mason 43 5 1
    Okanogan 63 5 2
    Pacific 13 2 1
    Pend Oreille 3 0 0
    Pierce 2,361 396 96
    San Juan 20 1 0
    Skagit 488 56 15
    Skamania 3 1 0
    Snohomish 3,346 596 165
    Spokane 1,069 109 38
    Stevens 16 4 1
    Thurston 226 35 7
    Wahkiakum 4 0 0
    Walla Walla 144 12 3
    Whatcom 554 52 40
    Whitman 30 0 0
    Yakima 6,490 464 146
    Unassigned 43 1 0
    Total 29,869 4,093 1,293

    With a total population of 7.32 million in the state, assuming you don’t visit a hospital,
    assuming that every infected person, other than those in hospital are out and about shopping etc. (Highly Doubtful), the odds of you actually meeting an infected person IF YOU GO OUT SHOPPING etc. are about 1 in 250 people.

    So unless you are planning on interacting with 250 people, you have a very low probability of interacting with covid-19.

    And even then if you are careful and don’t touch your face and NEVER closely interact FACE-to-FACE with other people and wash your hands after touching anything you know is not contaminated the odds of catching covid-19 are damn close to WERO.

      Jun 25, 2020 25:58 PM

      I wonder how accurate those figures are considering the CDC ordered all doctors to falsify death certificates to make the numbers appear higher.
      After Inslee’s speech in Yakima, someone called the hospital to ask if the hospital was, indeed, overflowing as Inslee had. The hospital’s response was negative. 250-bed hospital with only 160 beds occupied.

    Jun 25, 2020 25:28 AM

    Why is Inslee doing this? To pretend he is doing something, when in fact he is doing very little. Either he is not considering the mental health and economic impact, or because he wants to keep people from organizing against his rule.

    There is an election going on, primary in Aug, and people are angry, very angry – if he can keep his opponents from campaigning, he has an advantage.

    Jun 25, 2020 25:29 AM

    Chances of catching HIV….with all the crap and needles on the street……might be more deadly……

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:38 AM

    The data above was correct as of 6/22/20.

    I have been processing Covid-19 data globally, for over 100 countries trying to estimate infectivity of different strains, etc.
    Trying to see correlations with quality of medical systems,
    correlations with race,
    correlations with temperature, etc.
    I can’t reproduce all the data here, since it is on a different computersystem, but I have only found one possible correlation that was really statistically significant. (More later)
    I found the probability of death id NOT depend on quality of health systems, and not whether they were nationalized health systems or private, OR EVEN VIRTUALLY NON-EXISTANT (as in Africa)

    I did not find any very signifcant correlation with average standard of living in a country. (This result surprized me)
    I did not find any really significant correlation with race*. (* After corrected for other factors) Since African heritage is supposed to imply twice as many ACE2 receptors, this implies number of ACE2 receptors in not a factor in mortality.

    Mathematically one has to be very carefully to ensure correlations are not appearing due to lack of statistically large numbers, and random variations.
    I did see a number of slight correlations, but only one really strange BIG correlation, which follows.

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:16 AM

    Let me give some data, and see if you can deduce the correlation:
    Data is in the form of Country name, total deaths as a percentage of total number infected.(I will just list some of the countries with larger numbers of infections)

    Bangladesh 1.3%
    Belgium 15.9%
    Brazil 4.5%
    Canada 8.2%
    China 5.6%
    Denmark 4.8%
    France 15.5%
    Germany 4.8%
    Hungary 14.0%
    India 3.1%
    Iran 4.7%
    Ireland 6.8%
    Italy 14.5%
    Netherlands 12.2%
    Pakistan 2.0%
    Peru 3.2%
    Saudi Arabia 0.8%
    Spain 9.8%
    Sweden 8.2%
    Turkey 2.6%
    UK 14.0%
    USA 5.0%

    The biggest correlation is with average Latitude of country.

    I infer that this has something to do with Vitamin D concentrations in the blood due to exposure to sunlight. I could be wrong about my inference, but the higher exposure to UV seems to correlate with lower likelihood of mortality due to Covid-19.

      Jun 25, 2020 25:51 AM

      Interesting, I think you may be on to something. I believe UV and latitude have some impact – we know the virus dies more rapidly in strong sun. This will help in the coming months.

      Another possible correlation, most high death rate nations have more sophisticated health care systems, and are more hygienic communities. Could this reduce natural immunity development?

      The lower death rate reporting countries also might have lower capacity to track the virus, or their numbers may be deliberately under reported?

        cfs
        Jun 25, 2020 25:28 PM

        The cclical variation of regular flu (coming back in cool/winter months) seems reasonable.

        However, my research was originally aimed at seeing whether we were ging to get a cyclical variation with covid-19.
        I noticed that Brazil infections were increasing as it was going into winter….although Winter in Brazil sure beats European summers, as far as I’m concerned
        The correlations, hwever, are not so much with temperature and infection rates, but are more pronounced with UV and death rates. (Australia with its ozone hole should show up, but it does not have enough infections yet)

        I had to just take the numbers as published, without speculating on detection rates and accuracy.

    Tom
    Jun 25, 2020 25:19 AM

    long BNTX

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:27 AM

    The data processing encounters problems with some countries only having low infections at this point of time. Many countries in Africa do not have large enough infection rates to produce good statistics.
    Many of the countries above have 1,000 deaths or more, but Chad has 76 8.2%, Botswana 38 1.1%, where averages are not so meaningful.

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:35 AM

    Facebook Bias…….Zuckerberg thinks he’s going to swing the election.

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/06/23/facebook-severe-bias/

    I’m betting his company is decimated before he gets to November.

      Jun 25, 2020 25:50 PM

      One the record, Big Al predicts major violence in November and he is nervous.

    Jun 25, 2020 25:58 AM

    No Commie governor is going to make Mr. Big Al and Jimmy wear a face diaper!

      Jun 25, 2020 25:51 PM

      I wear a face mask and have for the past four months when I am in public because my wife is in a very high risk category. That is called Big Al using common sense.

        Jun 25, 2020 25:43 PM

        What mask do you wear? N95? I think those are pretty much unavailable? The rest aren’t very effective. What do you recommend? Can you post a picture of you wearing the mask?

    Jun 25, 2020 25:59 AM

    I see people all the time driving in their cars BY THEMSELVES wearing a mask? WHY?

    Jun 25, 2020 25:00 PM

    Also, was biking out in the middle of no wear…miles from the nearest road and I see a guy off in the distance hiking all alone and wearing a mask. WHY?

    Jun 25, 2020 25:04 PM

    Would have been better off if the gooberment did NOTHING for this Covid business. Instead they send Covids off to the rest homes, shut down the economy, print insane amounts of money and the list goes on and on and on.

    Whenever the goooberment gets involved it ALWAYS makes a bad situation worse.

    Here’s what happens when our goooverment masters go for a drive…

    https://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/images/MW-IJ321_pileup_ZG_20200625143528.jpg

      Jun 25, 2020 25:08 PM

      I’ll take you one step further Eddie.
      The promoter of the race ponied up a million bucks for Indy 500 winner Dan Wheldon to start in the back and collect the million if he won.
      Dan ended up in the catch fence and left a wife and two small children.
      R I P Dan Weldon.
      This is exactly what the Fed is doing with our financial livelihoods.
      Follow the Money.

        Jun 25, 2020 25:25 PM

        Indy 500 is history………the tradition is GONE……….
        I use to work in Speedway, Indiana…….and got to meet all the great ones….
        Worked in a clothing store, men’s specialty , ….all the race drivers would come in to buy some rags……AJ.Foyt , Parnelli Jones, Mario A., Unser, and some other light weights…
        All great down to earth men….Had a great time in the 60’s…….what a shame…

          cfs
          Jun 25, 2020 25:00 PM

          I enjoyed going down the weekend before for pole day.

            Jun 25, 2020 25:09 PM

            Fun to take a spin around the track…….when they let you take your rod for a spin…when they have some exhibitions and fairs…in summer….

      Jun 25, 2020 25:54 PM

      The progressives continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

    Jun 25, 2020 25:25 PM

    Inslee is totally a farce.

      Jun 25, 2020 25:38 PM

      I agree Dick

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:41 PM

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/24/fncs-carlson-the-mob-is-an-arm-of-the-democratic-establishment/

    I’m getting sick of these racism claims.
    I don’t believe Black Lives Matter has anything to do with racism…..I just see it as a bunch of Black communists, using their leverage as Black, to try to destroy capitalism.
    Nothing to do with Racism….Everything to do with getting a free lunch, without having to work for it.

      Jun 25, 2020 25:55 PM

      Only a retired professor could state something this wise!

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:46 PM

    I think Black people are being conditioned to hate, rather than to be rational.

    This will destroy the country unless white people say enough is enough.
    You can see demands for reparations coming for slavery. Expecially spear-headed by AOC.

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:55 PM

    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-surge-map-7714f8d1-5ba1-46f8-9bf3-5d59938f2c95.html

    All I can say, ismy current location of Tennessee is looking good.
    It will look even better when state income tax goes to zero on July 1.

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:18 PM

    A lead editorial in the Wall Street Journal reveals the per-capita death rate for the coronavirus is 75% lower in states that did not panic into lockdown mode.

    Isn’t that interesting ?
    But is it statistically significant ?

      Jun 25, 2020 25:57 PM

      No you are wrong, It is good at taking control!

    cfs
    Jun 25, 2020 25:21 PM

    Latest review of mask effectiveness

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ODBTdNiG0

    Ron
    Jun 26, 2020 26:02 AM

    Why not use the Democratic Model to create a true sanctuary city. You could legalize the constitution and establish the rule of law. Enforce 1st,2nd,3rd amendments. Establish property rights. No property tax. No income tax. You could have a gold backed currency. If CNN came to town you could seize their equipment and charge them with causing the 2020 riots and fine them 1 year’s earnings say around 100 billion. If George bush or Obama came to town you could arrest them and charge them with war crimes then execute them. Of course using the democratic model, you would have to install the mayor city council judges and Sheriff. But you could do it legally. I would call this city CHAD.

    cfs
    Jun 26, 2020 26:18 AM

    In yet another attempt to take a majority in the Senate, Pelosi will attempt to push for statehood for Washington, DC.
    This would guarantee two more Democrat Senators.