Weekend Show Politics – Sat 10 Oct, 2020

Hour 2 – Trying to look more positive at the world

Full Second Hour
  • Segment 1 – John Horvat says don’t fight anger with more anger.
  • Segment 2 – Exemplifying Americans who persevere and make our country a better place Peter Sherrill
  • Segment 3 – Dr. John Huber discusses personal choice.
  • Segment 4 – Dr.Charles Page MD discusses vaccines and Naturopathic Medicine.

Segment 1
Segment 2
Segment 3
Segment 4

Comments:
    • On October 10, 2020 at 9:34 am,
      Big Al says:

      i read this article and believe that it is a worthwhile read. I did try to post it, but realized that it carried a copyright and, because of that, I simply left the link where you put it above, CFS.

      Recommended read says Big Al

      • On October 10, 2020 at 11:56 pm,
        Thomas says:

        Herd immunity is the only solution

        With a vaccine the collateral damage would be much lower

        UK tried the approach in the beginning and fast became the Country with the highest death number in Europe. After this they quickly moved away from herd immunity and still do so.

      • On October 11, 2020 at 3:30 am,
        Thomas says:

        Sweden also tried herd immunity and changed the approach later on

    • On October 10, 2020 at 9:38 am,
      Big Al says:

      I have one question about the “very effective therapeutics”. Trump is the President of The United States and, of course “very effective therapeutics” are available to him. Are they also available to high risk people like myself and my wife an you.

      • On October 10, 2020 at 11:49 am,
        cfs says:

        All I can say is that I have twice heard Trump say he will make Regeneron available to all major hospitals. and the second time time he said at no cost to the public.
        I am not an M.D., but from my reading about Regeron, I would prefer it over the Moderna vaccine. )In fact I will not allow anyone to inject the Moderna RNA vaccine into me.
        On the other hand, I would not have as great a problem with the China Covax vaccine, which it appears the WHO will provide to some 80 countries, since this has been tested on the Chinese military, does not contain RNA, and is based on the Adinovirus, long used as an antigen generator.

      • On October 10, 2020 at 12:54 pm,
        Chuck says:

        Trump was treated more aggressively than what we are doing. Regeron is used for those needing icu care…respiratory distress. Plasma is given to those who are reaally sick…on ventilators

        • On October 10, 2020 at 2:37 pm,
          Big Al says:

          Many thanks Chuck. I was wondering why your comment was held back. I am still not sure but I did just approve it as I just found out that it was “pending”

        • On October 11, 2020 at 3:28 am,
          Thomas says:

          I have seen numbers like $20.000 for a REG-COV9 therapy at the moment
          This might go lower with larger volumes

    • On October 10, 2020 at 10:28 am,
      Chuck says:

      The COVID mortality rate is much less than we anticipated. Eight months ago we expected a motality of 3-6%. Now -depending on how you crunch the numbers it’s much lower—probably less than 0.1 %. That’s good news. Our knowledge of how to treat COVID patients is growing steadily. We cant live in fear. We have to mive forward.

      • On October 10, 2020 at 2:45 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Thanks Chuck. Your understanding is also my current understanding. Depending on (how you crunch the numbers is a critical statement on your part!)

    • On October 10, 2020 at 12:15 pm,
      Wayne says:

      Of course for those older individuals with underlying health conditions COVID is still more lethal than the flu.

      • On October 10, 2020 at 12:17 pm,
        Big Al says:

        That is also my understanding. Thanks Wayne!

      • On October 10, 2020 at 12:58 pm,
        cfs says:

        I do not believe that true, Wayne, with prophylactic treatment or early therapeutic treatment.
        Both Spain and France have ZERO fatalities even of over 100 year old patients, treated with Vitamin D, zinc and HCQ.

        The WHO published statistics were out of date even on the date they were published

        • On October 10, 2020 at 1:06 pm,
          cfs says:

          https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/former-new-jersey-governor-christie-leaves-hospital-after-covid-19-treatment-13250232

          Christie is no spring chicken and has asthma as a comorbidity, one of the dangerous comorbidities. He’s overweight too, but who isn’t.

          • On October 10, 2020 at 2:33 pm,
            Big Al says:

            CFS, I personally am just getting more confused. Not a good space to be in!

        • On October 10, 2020 at 1:44 pm,
          Wayne says:

          cfs,

          I think we are talking about two different time periods. It sounds like you are referring to recent statistics in which using better treatments are helping to keep the fatality rate very low to where it would be similar to what we see in the typical flu season. And I would agree. However I was referring to data from the beginning of COVID. In the U.S. we had numerous nursing homes where 25% of the residents died in about 3 months. Some nursing homes had bodies piled up in rooms. Obit pages full of deceased older people. Members of the same family died in the same week. Some of family members were younger people including children. This was more than what happens during the flu season. And we even took extra steps, albeit too late, to help prevent deaths such as locking down nursing homes and retirement communities. We do not do that in the flu season. So I do not agree with people who simply state that COVID is no more deadly than the flu. However it very well may be no more deadlier if you factor in the newer improved treatment.

          • On October 10, 2020 at 2:07 pm,
            Big Al says:

            I, for one, am very interested in the “newer treatment” and its availability to high risk categories. Now, I am going to spend some time looking into this.

          • On October 10, 2020 at 5:23 pm,
            cfs says:

            Yes, I am talking as of right now. Current state of knowledge.

            I also suspect if we aggressively treated the flu with Vitamin D and zinc, we could drop its death rate too.

          • On October 11, 2020 at 7:53 am,
            Thomas says:

            214K / 7,7Million = 2,8% (current numbers for US)

            From this you have to estimate how many infections are unknown
            I have heart that the estimate is more at 1% for the US, not 0,1%
            For people over 80 I have heart 10%

          • On October 11, 2020 at 12:49 pm,
            Big Al says:

            Too many conflicting numbers out there, Thomas. I, personally, was under the impression that when the very large entire universe was considered the mortality rate for high risk people was about 6%. This number has changed numerous times both up and down depending on the sample size. Makes it very difficult to come to an accurate conclusion.

          • On October 11, 2020 at 8:00 pm,
            Thomas says:

            Every number has it‘s uncertainty and assumptions. I think the best samples are the cases for Diamond Princess, Iceland and maybe South Korea

            Diamond Princess: 13 / 700 = 1,8 %
            Iceland: 10 / 3526 = 0,3%
            South Korea: 433 / 24606 = 1,76%

            The truth is probably somewhere between 0,3% – 1,8%
            Depending on the medium age of the population

        • On October 10, 2020 at 2:35 pm,
          Big Al says:

          Vitamin D and Zinc are easy, but not the HCQ! Any comments on this?

          • On October 10, 2020 at 5:33 pm,
            cfs says:

            The purpose of HCQ is to enable zinc to more easily get through cell walls, so that it can work with Vitamin D to stop viral replication.

            If HCQ is not available Quercetin, an over the counter supplement, should work.

            I personally take 250 mg capsules of quercetin.

            Available at most any drug store, such as CVS.
            Even available at walmart:
            https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=quercetin&cat_id=976760

            $15-$20 for a 3 month supply.

      • On October 10, 2020 at 1:36 pm,
        cfs says:

        We should also remember that of the 200K deaths in the U.S. so far, about half of those were in New York and California where governors ordered the “murder” of patients in care homes by forcing elderly people released from hospital back into the care homes.

      • On October 10, 2020 at 2:39 pm,
        Big Al says:

        I have believed that for a long time. Thanks Wayne!

  1. On October 10, 2020 at 4:35 am,
    cfs says:

    One way or another, WE HAVE TO BRING CIVIL DISCOURSE BACK TO SOCIETY.

    Anger never works at persuading anyone anything.
    Although Pence was criticized for not being aggressive, his quiet disposition in the second debate was more effective than that of Trump in the first debate.

    • On October 10, 2020 at 9:41 am,
      Big Al says:

      And that is the exact point that I made, CFS. Thanks for your comment.

  2. On October 10, 2020 at 4:42 am,
    cfs says:

    https://thenationalpulse.com/news/hillary-blm-theological/

    One has to wonder about he mental state of Ms. Clinton.

    • On October 10, 2020 at 7:04 am,
      Rufust445 says:

      Have been beyond wondering for over four years.

    • On October 10, 2020 at 9:45 am,
      Big Al says:

      Perhaps in a very broad sense, “Thou shalt not kill” it could be construed as a theological statement. Given some of the negative results of the movement, I find it difficult to put it in that light. Sorry Hillary!

    • On October 10, 2020 at 9:47 am,
      Big Al says:

      A good example of more insanity out of Seattle. Wonder how real estate demand is doing in that city?

  3. On October 10, 2020 at 4:50 am,
    cfs says:

    John Huber is totally correct regarding washing hands, etc. Already, statistics are showing a marked decrease in colds and flu.

  4. On October 10, 2020 at 6:51 am,
    cfs says:

    In light of segment 4, I present for educational purposes:

    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAQ7SklDxo

  5. On October 10, 2020 at 6:53 am,
    cfs says:
  6. On October 10, 2020 at 9:40 am,
    Ron says:

    Thanks to Al and other brave journalist out there many are waking up. So, I have decided to change my strategy from exposing evil to providing positive information to enable others to fight evil. I will start with some things that I am doing and evaluating, as well as good Ideas that I have found.

    • On October 10, 2020 at 9:40 am,
      Ron says:

      Coop HomeSchool; this is a good idea. My daughters’ private school tuition 1-12 grade is 20K per year. The school is current closed due to COVID but when it reopens, they will require Mask, social distancing, testing and most likely COVID vaccine (mRNA) or flu shot. Teacher salaries at the school averages 50K. If you can get 10 students together with like minded parents (this is the hard part) you charge 10k per student and pay the teacher 100K. You just cut your class size and tuition in half and doubled the teachers pay. You no longer have to wear mask and social distance and do the fake COVID test with its 90% false positive problem. And if you school happens to be located on a farm/winery like mine is the children get to have outside hands on learning. Hopefully one of the parents is a lawyer and you now have a cooperative group to fight the unconstitutional tyranny. This solution is scalable for example 10 teachers and 100 students. You now have some real control over the curriculum. My daughters school is based on the Waldorf concept.

  7. On October 10, 2020 at 11:27 am,
    larry says:
    • On October 10, 2020 at 12:12 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Did not read the article yet, Will comment after I read it I am assuming that you disagree or am I wrong?

  8. On October 10, 2020 at 11:48 am,
    larry says:

    Dr. Page 1+…He is not shilling and also sounds as if he is on a journey for some truth….He did honestly acknowledged that Rockefeller allopathic medicine, the method, has shortcomings and that it essentially deals with symptoms rather than cause and as such cannot restore homeostasis of the individual…….That is an understatement, but at least true…..He was honest to a degree regarding the vaccination industry…….Which ironically is ‘immune’ to lawsuits for the huge damages they inflict…They may be the only true benefactors of immunity in the whole scam….

    Al, you are getting more discriminating on the medical commentator front, congrats…..It is not easy, if not specifically equiped with a science background….Not that it matters Al…But I did do a full medical residency prior to periodontal residency following dental college…A lot of oral surgeons and periodontists do this in order for the exposure to medical complication management…..Even back then all us residents knew that this medical care thing was something we strived to avoid at al costs..lol

    Final note…Many anti-vaccine experts such as Dr. Sherry Tenpenny would say that vaccinated children will never attain the developmental intelligence and human health and vitality of those patients she sees who are notvaccinated…Hence vaccination is anti-human for thwarting who you naturally should have been by g-ds plan….

    • On October 10, 2020 at 12:10 pm,
      Big Al says:

      You make some very interesting points, Larry. Yes, I have learned something from you. I am happy to admit that I am not the “prettiest baby in the nursery”!

    • On October 10, 2020 at 1:38 pm,
      Matthew says:

      “Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so.” — Bertrand Russell

      The central planners are happy to share what they are up to because they know that the majority will never believe it.

      • On October 10, 2020 at 1:55 pm,
        Matthew says:

        Btw, the above quote came from The Impact of Science on Society (1952).

        Here’s another by Bertarnd Russell that is painfully true:
        “Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education.”

        Mark Twain was also right:
        “If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.”

        • On October 10, 2020 at 2:04 pm,
          Big Al says:

          True. How do you feel about all of this?

          • On October 10, 2020 at 3:28 pm,
            Matthew says:

            We’re doomed, Al, at least for the foreseeable future. The masses don’t have the foggiest idea what’s really threatening their prosperity so a lot of energy is being spent futilely, at best, and often very counterproductively.
            The left is completely lost but most of the right is, too. In some form or another, fools everywhere embrace evil in the form of collectivism.

            “Fascism, communism and national socialism all share in common the explicit premise that the individual must subordinate himself to society’s needs, or as Hitler would phrase it: ‘Society’s needs come before the individual needs.'” — A.E. Samaan

            “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” — Henry David Thoreau

      • On October 10, 2020 at 2:11 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Interesting comment by Mr. Russell.

        Regarding you comment about central planners, I would take it in another direction. “They will never see it”

        • On October 10, 2020 at 5:18 pm,
          larry says:

          You both could be right …..but I gotta tell you all…..At a recent re-opening event where I worship…The benediction included respectful comments to be supportive of BLM….the liberals run my worship place… i feel torn up…

          • On October 10, 2020 at 6:47 pm,
            Matthew says:

            Since actions speak much louder than words, let’s call them antisocial, hypocritical tyrants, not liberals. These beings are not for freedom in any way.

    • On October 10, 2020 at 2:42 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I find your last paragraph to be very thought provoking. Thanks Larry!

  9. On October 10, 2020 at 12:08 pm,
    CFS says:

    Unlike Larry, I am not a straight anti-vaxxer, although I question the nature of the vaccine before I would use it.
    With regard to covid-19, I question vigorously any statements made by China.
    Looking at all reports coming out of China currently, I am forced to concede that that country now has covid totally under control.
    While new cases per day are typically in the low double digits, it appears that every last one is due to new entries into the country, all of whom face mandatory quarantine.
    Their military and all medical persons have been given vaccines, which appear 90-ish% effective. Any new internal infected people have faced mandatory quarantines since March of this year, which now appear to have eliminated domestic transmission.
    An authoritarian society can be effective!

    • On October 10, 2020 at 2:31 pm,
      Big Al says:

      The article did specify that the number of Coved 19 related deaths in the United States are currently 214,000 (rounded off slightly)

      • On October 10, 2020 at 5:49 pm,
        cfs says:

        About 8% of U.S. C.D.C. reported “covid” deaths are purely due to covid……according to CDC.
        The statistics must be understood, regarding how data is reported.
        For the first 6-7 months of this year even a car accident related death was called covid if the person tested positive for covid.
        That is no longer the case, which is part of the reason why there are increasingly larger numbers of infected people, but much fewer deaths; like less than 1/10 of earlier rates.
        (Combined with better treatment, of course.)

  10. On October 10, 2020 at 1:39 pm,
    cfs says:
    • On October 10, 2020 at 2:09 pm,
      Big Al says:

      So, what is it going to do? Take over the universe?

      • On October 10, 2020 at 5:58 pm,
        cfs says:

        I don’t know for sure, but I would guess there are two factors at play.
        1. N. Korea wants to portray itself as being a modern powerful country, despite being highly dependent on China for most things.
        2. It is also trying to extract as much money as possible for” giving up” its nuclear weapons. That worked twice so far….from Clinton and from Obama. Trump refused to be blackmailed.
        I suspect this is in case Democrats win in November.
        (In any event no matter what they promise, N. Korea will not give up Nukes, but would not use them either.)

  11. On October 10, 2020 at 7:21 pm,
    cfs says:

    I realize Trump has been distracted by his illness with covid, but he is derelict in his duty.
    He really must name Antifa a terrorist organization, and go after their funding.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/antifa-cheers-streets-one-peers-shoots-kills-trump-supporter-denver-video/

  12. On October 11, 2020 at 6:19 am,
    irishtony says:

    This IMO is a must watch podcast from Ireland , Re covid lockdowns . Its 30 minutes long. I also features the video put out 2 days ago by a WHO spokesman , calling on World Govt’s to END THE LOCKDOWNS….Take the time to watch this……
    https://theduran.com/ireland-and-europes-viral-outlook-what-does-the-latest-data-say/

    • On October 11, 2020 at 7:10 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Hang in there TONY……………the world abounds in stupidity….
      the zerohedge article today was a good one…….
      https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/second-act-will-be-worse-first-lockdowns-are-not-answer

      • On October 11, 2020 at 9:38 am,
        Ebolan says:

        The Amerocon sheeple can’t even use trampolines…but apparently real sheep can…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwwIYdB_wic

        • On October 11, 2020 at 11:51 am,
          irishtony says:

          Not sure what med’s they gave Trump when he was in hospital….
          https://www.facebook.com/warren.bell.714/videos/10155512531395870/?t=66

          • On October 11, 2020 at 12:12 pm,
            Big Al says:

            I am a bit confused Mr. Irish. The link sent me to a video of Dan Bongino announcing that he was found to have a large tumor in his neck. Not sure if it is malignant. It is certainly of concern. I pray that he is okay.

          • On October 11, 2020 at 12:18 pm,
            Big Al says:

            I believe that is is recorded very clearly exactly what he was given in terms of meds. Did you read the comments yesterday from Dr. Page? I must be a good judge of character because Larry had some very positive things to say about him which I completely agree with.

            Comments?

        • On October 11, 2020 at 12:32 pm,
          Big Al says:

          Turned out to be a long advertisement for The Epoch Times which I already subscribe to.

      • On October 11, 2020 at 12:53 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Sure it was OOTB, but I sure would like to seen the number of interspersed advertisement decreased as I find them to be very confusing. How about you?

    • On October 11, 2020 at 12:54 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Fait enough Tony, I need a bit of a break from adding my own comments. I will take that break now watch what you posted. Thank you!

  13. On October 11, 2020 at 7:37 am,
    larry says:

    Man derived profit driven human intervention….This data shows failure and wholistic healing data does show success…Hippocrates health institute!
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/too-many-sick-children/?itm_term=home

    • On October 11, 2020 at 12:52 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Larry, of course there are positive aspects of naturopathic care. Here is the rub my friend, “is acupuncture considered to be naturopathic because it is an integral part of Chinese medicine.

      Give me, if you would. your definition of naturopathic medicine. Thank you.

      • On October 11, 2020 at 6:12 pm,
        larry says:

        AL!…….Just like allopathic medicine is a method ……Chinese method eg traditional chinese medicine has almost nothing in common with allopathic medicine….. Chinese believe health and vitality if re-established becomes the cure for disease or ailments….It is natural you could say because it does not use synthetic alien compounds known as pharmaceutical drugs to achieve its goal…..The acupuncture is a very specific part of that tradition and i know next to nothing about it…except that, very sound studies have shown that endorphins are released due to the acupuncture therapy….Endorphins search will explain Al….Personally with all your money(wise guy thing) I would go to the Hippocrates institute in Florida…I can give you many reasons….hang in AL….

  14. On October 11, 2020 at 12:04 pm,
    irishtony says:

    WHO . Flip-Flops…..On covid shutdowns……I posted part of this above.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-flip-flops-urges-world-leaders-stop-using-lockdowns-fight-covid-contagion

    • On October 11, 2020 at 12:16 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Too many ads interspersed within many of these articles. Gets very confusing to me. How about you Mr. Irish?

      • On October 11, 2020 at 12:51 pm,
        irishtony says:

        HI AL….I am not sure how your computor is set up. Me; I use Firefox , & brouse useing Duck_Duck Go….I have Bullguard installed , Plus Add Blocker……
        Result…..No add’s on any of the sites that i visit , i dont even get your list of sponsores that usually show , on the right side of your page. Regards my link up above , when i click on it i get a parody of Trump in a nursery…& thats what i posted , so not sure hou are getting Dan Bongino….Hope that helps.

  15. On October 11, 2020 at 1:42 pm,
    cfs says:
  16. On October 11, 2020 at 1:57 pm,
    cfs says:

    I use several different computers with different browsers
    I use an I-pad when I travel.

    e.g. the Brave browser is a bit slow, but blocks ads quite well
    My firefox browser is on a machine with an ad-blocker loaded.
    Much of the time I use a chrome browser on this Toshiba laptop.

    I do find if I use different browsers simultaneously on one computer, they tend to lock up.
    My computer Jock son thinks I’m crazy, when I have different laptops around me with multiple windows open, but I tell him it cuts on loading time and allows me to cover much more material.

  17. On October 11, 2020 at 3:09 pm,
    Big Al says:

    As I mentioned at the end of another section, I have weighed in on all the comments made within the last thirty minutes. Are you folks still commenting? If so, I will stay here.

    • On October 11, 2020 at 4:00 pm,
      irishtony says:

      AL…..Take the rest of the day off…..Enjoy it with the Little Blond Lady Kathy…
      Sit out in your garden , with a nice glass of wine , listenging to nature , while some nice relaxing music playes in the backround , from your sterio….You never know it might lead to a smoochy dance between you two…..lol

      • On October 11, 2020 at 7:06 pm,
        Big Al says:

        The best advice that I have received in a long time Irish. You have to be aware that all of my current effort goes into not drinking any wine! Finding that to be a minute by minute challenge!

    • On October 11, 2020 at 6:41 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Humorous but definitely not for the feeble minded, Irish! (Or should I say “slow witted”

  18. On October 11, 2020 at 7:12 pm,
    Big Al says:

    Done for today. Back tomorrow Monday around 8:30 a.m.

  19. On October 12, 2020 at 11:47 am,
    larry says:

    https://go.thetruthaboutvaccines.com/natural-news/?a_aid=1587332

    the above vaccine documentary is free…but you need to pre-register and it has a brief window to access each of the 10 segments…glta…i am going to watch and take notes…

    • On October 12, 2020 at 11:54 am,
      Big Al says:

      What do you mean by glta? You refer to a video distributed by Natural News.

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