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Dan Norcini points out that may index funds reweight their positions at the start of the year so this is another reason why the price is going up. He says, “I still want to wait and see what we get next week when the full complement of traders return.”
http://traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/2014/01/index-funds-buy-precious-metals.html
I would agree with Dan.
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: ) I put my ear plugs in…..and their stsyin in
Watch and listen to the blues video I just put up which Rick turned me on to! (And take out the plugs!)
Hey HEAVY……how about this theme to start the year…….
‘Why wait til 1268’????
Question: do you believe all the economic & unemployment data put out by the fed gov’t is fraudulant or distorted? If so, how much percentage wise.
I think so Fred. Do you trust these people….if people do then they are trusting
the wrong people. NOW….EVERYONE……HERES THE REAL PROBLEM….
To All That Read This.
WE HAVE 3 BIG HUGE BUBBLES READY TO POP
1. DEBT
2. US DOLLAR
3. DERIVATIVES
Anyone of them POP…..the whole world goes into the DARK AGES.
Suggestion…..KEEP THE WORD OF GOD WRITTEN IN YOUR HEARTS
Forgot…..continuation. ..
ONE BUBBLE POPS……. IT WILL POP THE OTHER TWO
I again completely agree Heavy!
AMEN to all that HEAVY…….it’s really incredible how they have been able to keep it afloat since 2008……Jesus said when he returns he will find very little to no faith –
I BELIEVE !!!!!!!!
And, Heavy, Big Al and the Blonde Lady do just that! (Little help in being blonde!)
That is a GREAT point and a GREAT question Fred!
Thanks HH.
I think that from a moral and political stand point the world is already in the dark ages. The only thing left to collapse and go into free fall is the scam called the economy. Once that goes down there will be a reckoning. Call it the night of the long knives on steriods.
Very unfortunately Steven, I have to agree with you!
Best
On January 5, 2013 at 6:22 am,
Dennis M. O’Neil says:
Peter Grandich said “We have been robbing Peter to pay Paul and Peter is tapped out.”
Someone said (but I forget who) “When you rob Peter to pay Paul you assure yourself Paul’s vote.”
Some say the expression was derived from before the Reformation when church taxes were required to be paid to St. Paul’s church in London and to St. Peter’s church in Rome therefore the theory goes it referred to neglecting the St. Peter’s tax in order to have money to pay the St. Paul’s tax. When you look at the below image of St. Paul’s Cathedral London you cannot help but see a resemblance between the structure and our capital building. The benefactors of much of the “robbed” money over ½ of a millennium are caused by and arrive to the inhabitants of ornate domed edifices.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=st+paul%27s+cathedral&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=d&biw=1000&bih=503&tbm=isch&tbnid=WhPqqAKwnLEvuM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s_Cathedral&docid=h0kJ73xTBxn07M&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/St_Pauls_Cathedral_in_1896.JPG/250px-St_Pauls_Cathedral_in_1896.JPG&w=250&h=190&ei=ODPoUL2qCOqx0QHL4oC4Bg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=632&vpy=2&dur=8050&hovh=152&hovw=200&tx=114.875&ty=90.5&sig=108938575453810407277&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:168
The larger and more ornate a building….the more lavish the adornments of an office…requires more not less questions to be asked and answered.
“The larger and more ornate a building….the more lavish the adornments of an office…requires more not less questions to be asked and answered.”
All I can say, Dennis M, is OF COURSE!
They have painted an illusion and I do regret having to say this but The Truth is
THE GREATEST COLLAPSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD IS ALMOST HERE
People can continue to believe the worlds lies or we can listen to Gods precious Holy Word
We are all responsible to either reject Christ and suffer for eternity or accept him living forever in Wonderland in his KINGDOM.that words could never describe.
DONT BE BE DECIEVED AND MISS OUT……hell is a real place and those that don’t believe it
THEY WILL FIND OUT WHEN THEY GET THERE
Purgatory is a real place also. We are all called to pray for all the souls in purgatory so they can be released to Heaven. God has made known that the most souls get released to Heaven during Christmas season. We must continue to pray for those souls in hell who repent and want to leave. They need someone to pray for them. We all do.
Now Fred……where did you get that info.
THERE IS NO TURNING BACK
HEAVY….how about the Prodigal Son and the thief/murderer on the cross next to Jesus…..how about the life of St. Paul…….Noone gets to heaven on their own so-called righteousness…..Every person gets to Heaven only through Jesus and his righteousness – not ours……repentance, mercy, forgiveness in this life and after……I am a CATHOLIC, it is my faith forever.
Catholic is a cult religion. Only asking Jesus for forgivrness and repentance daily
And putting our faith in him. Its a relationship with Jesus or you ARE NOT SAVED.
not a relationship with Mary……
THE HOLY BIBLE IS OUR GUIDE NOT THE CATHOLIC DISINFORMATION.
SORRY FRED…..THERE ARE SOME ROMAN CATHLOLICS THAT KNOW…
very few……ITS ALL ABOUT JESUS WHO IS OUR GREAT SAVIOR.
NOTHING ELSE……Jesus paid the price at calvary
The Catholic Church is the Church that JESUS established while on earth.
Jesus did not establish a cult religion but his Word and His CHURCH.
When Jesus returns and says the Catholic Church is no longer His Church, only then will I switch. However, Jesus has not done that because the Church is based on His Word and His Word alone. Jesus wants people to join what he established, not what he didn’t establish. Or else he would say so just like HE did when HE was here.
I have to agree with Fred HH.
Hell is not so much God’s judgment of us as that of us alienating ourselves from God, because our sins make it intolerable to venture anywhere near His presence. Besides which I do not believe that hell is some permanent place of separation, anymore than I believe in some flame-throwing God who sends us into eternal fire. It was Origen one of the Church Fathers who said ‘In the end even devils will be saved’. Call me a universalist (someone who believes that we all have an immortal soul) then I have to stand by what other more strident believers would call heresy.
Hell’s teeth HH we’re all heretics of one kind or other given than none of us has a direct hotline to God. It’s arrogant to think that we do, given that for every text we quote from scripture there’s always another one to modify if not contradict it.
Heavy hitter, you hit the nail on the head!
Oh, Andy!
Oh Andy, what????
I have to disagree with your statement regarding our hot line to God, Jesus made it clear that we do thru Him, Jesus is God.
Point taken Bobby!
And the pope is..…?
An important MAN, Bobby
Yes but not the mediator,
http://www.truthmagazine.com/archives/volume21/TM021186.html
HH: Try reading the book of Maccabees………….unless of course that is no longer applicable…………………Would be interested what your background in Theology is.
HH:
I’m not Fred but agree with him. The Book of Maccabees……… otherwise why would we pray for the dead if it were not a place for purification before we meet up with our maker? I have a problem for those who conveniently accept some but not all of Sacred Scripture
HH:
How convenient that you are taking a Holiday without responding to a couple of basic questions about your unmitigated assertions and unsupported scriitural positions about my Catholic Faith. I too have some questions about it but not Heaven, Hell and or even purgatory as like you, I depend on Scripture.. Hopefully when you return from Holiday we can further take up the questions that you raised.
In the meantime, have a happy and prosperous New year.
Dai Uy
Dai Uy had to go away yesterday due to the winter storm but you beat me to it. Thanks……
2 Maccabees 12:43-46
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
43 And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection,
44 (For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should rise again, it would have seemed superfluous and vain to pray for the dead,)
45 And because he considered that they who had fallen asleep with godliness, had great grace laid up for them.
46 It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.
http://www.usccb.org/bible/2mc/12 (see 12:38-12:46)
http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2heavn.htm
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm
SORRY TO TELL YOU THIS FRED. THERE IS NO …PRUGATORY… NOT ANY WHERE IN THE SCRITURES. THE BIBLE MENTIONS 2 PLACES YOU CAN GO, HEAVEN OR HELL. PUT YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST, CALL UPON HIM TO BE YOUR SAVOIR. YOU GO TO HEAVEN , EVERY ONE ELSE GOES TO HELL. READ MATT:7:13-14
SILVER MAN I’ve never heard of a place PRUGATORY either! C’mon guys love Christ with every fibre of your being and stop getting over judgmental. More crucially DO NOT PLAY GOD! I’m certain that I know of many so-called Christians who in that great final procession may stand last in line compared to many so-called non-Christians who’ll be way ahead of me.
You got it Silverman!
Fred:
Agree with you re: purgatory. It is in the book of Maccabees where we are urged to pray for the dead unless the New Testament wipes out the Old Testament.
Bobby:
Point…counter point
Thanks for sharing.
HEAVYHITTER,
I’AM WITH YOU BROTHER. ONLY ONE LIFE WILL SOON BE PASTED. ONLY WHATS DONE FOR CHRIST WILL LAST.
HOW ABOUT THIS MOVE TODAY! IT HAS TO HOLD UP TOMORROW OR ITS JUST ANOTHER FALSE START.
Amen…amen silverman
ITS ….STAY LONG….OR BE WRONG.
Sure they might spook the weak hands…..thats what we need.
THE STRONG HANDS ALWAYS PREVAIL…..
If we go down and say adios…WEAK HANDS
I am looking forward to playing the golf course in heaven because it is THE BEST!
Al, such is your diplomacy you could get you to sale the QE 2 up the Thames!!
People in hell will score a hole in one and never loose a round. Be great for the first few months but eventually they would go insane with “perfect golf” all the time…
Hard to do in an eternal lake of fire.
Very true. Hell is getting what you always wanted in this world. For non- believers this is as good as it gets. For believers, this is as bad as it gets…
And that, Scooter, is a really great point!
Al:
Even with your presumed handicap based upon how much you play?
In the perfect paradise, how much fun will shooting an 18 every round be. I am looking forward to worshipping the creator of the universe.
Searching the bible for a mention of purgatory, I cannot seem to find any????
Bobby:
Maccabees.
Amen brother!
PSALM 119:89
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
PSALM 119:160
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
See you there JAMES in THE KINGDOM OF GOD….
Sorry about the past I.m a very imperfect man.
TO ALL……enjoy the ride and SEE YOU IN SEVERAL WEEKS.
1450 IS THE TARGET AND BE BACK THEN
GOD BLESS YOU ALL !
HEAVYHITTER,
WHERE ARE YOU GOING? FLORIDA FOR THE WINTER?
TAKE CARE.
I want to make a comment on Christians and Catholics as I feel very strongly about this and have had some very insightful experiences throughout my life which have lead me to these conclusions.
First of all, I am a Catholic but much more importantly a Christian.
I do not and have never been critical of people who believe differently. I have chosen to let God sort it all out. I believe what I believe and others believe what they believe.
I choose not to be critical because it is simply not my place. I am not God (obviously!). As Jesus said “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”.
I am active in an organization called “Just Faith”. (www.justfaith.org)
I attend a weekly meeting of the organization and learn to be cognizant of the needs of others and try very hard to look at the world through God’s eyes. (Please don’t take that as blasphemy. It is not meant to mean in any way, shape or form that I consider myself to really be able to do that. It simply means that I try very hard to live up to the teachings of Jesus. John 15.12 “This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.”)
The question of purgatory before heaven is something that I have no answer to because only God knows that.
I don’t label people who believe differently than I do as being members of a “cult religion” because I leave all labeling up to God.
Do I have some differences with people who are Catholics? You bet I do! So what, as I have said I leave everything up to God.
I simply do the best that I can in my daily life to treat others as I would like to be treated and if someone does not welcome me I simply, “shake the dust from my sandals.”
Life is pretty simple and good if a person simply “lets go and lets God”.
Am with you 110% Al, Blessings A
People who use their free will to play God, I think, represent some of the false prophets who Jesus warned us about!
Al, I respect your opinions, but be careful…the word was given to us by God. It is not to be added to or taken away from.
Oh Bobby….!
Bobby,
Please believe me I am neither adding nor subtracting!
Thanks Bobby
Al and andrew,
please don’t take my posts as critism. Just know that I am passionate in Gods Message that there is only one way and the road is narrow. A works based religion can sometimes mislead.
Thank you bobby I rejoice that you’re no insipid Christian and treasure your input! A
As long as the focus of our faith is Christ, denomination is minor stuff. Well said…
Well said scooter. ‘Hold to Christ and for the rest be wholly uncommitted.
By the way, it is heartening to know there are so many believers here. I also find it interesting that we who have heard and follow the truth in Christ are also those that are most aware of the deceit of the system. God Bless and may you all have a Happy New Year…
God bless you also Scooter.
And yes, it is interesting that we seem to be most aware of the deceit!
All the clubs seem to have different secret handshakes don’t they Scooter!
Gary who would have guessed that you’d be hosting a religious forum!!
Hosting a religious forum? Gary?
There is no place in scripture that endorses credit to infinity. All debts settled in gold or silver and a 7/50 year jubilee to reset usury debts. I think God knows a thing or two about human nature…
Again well said scooter.
And finance too, Scooter!
humans end up older GOD !
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