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Big Al
December 23, 2021
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    Dec 23, 2021 23:53 AM

    Mr. Big Al Korelin,

    On your recommendation I got the Fauci book, and I must say I am shocked at what the book very well documents. (It is chock full of citations to original research and more, including quoting experts such as front line doctors trying to dispense life saving, safe, effective and inexpensive medicines.)

    Did you get the others in your book club to read this book? If not, why?

    Also, would it be possible for you and Jimmy to do one or more podcasts on the book, ideally a podcast discussing each chapter.

    It is vital people are aware of what this book very well documents. The health of the public is at stake and obviously that includes you, me and everyone else on this blog.

      Dec 23, 2021 23:07 PM

      As a matter offact Eddie,

      We are putting all other books in our Book Club schedule on hold and starting in a week we are going to concentrate completely on the Fouchi book which I am currently also reading.

      We are going to do daily editorial on chapteers of this book. We decided that about a week ago.

        Dec 23, 2021 23:39 PM

        I look forward to listening to the podcasts you and Jimmy will do on the book. When will that be?

        Also, how many are in your book club now?

        I have an idea…could you record your book club session when you go over the Fauci book? It would be pretty easy to do with your cell phone. (What kind of cell phone do you have now?)

        Then you could upload the recording to KER Politics and we could all be part of the club…at least being able to hear what was discussed. I think this is a very good idea.

      Dec 23, 2021 23:02 PM

      This book was written by Robert F. Kennedy Jr, son of the former senator Robert F. Kennedy, and nephew of former president John F. Kennedy. This book is divided into 12 main chapters, with a total of about 930 pages in the digital version. (This page total is so high partly because of the many pages of “Endnotes” found at the end of each chapter. There are hundreds of individually numbered Notes, with links to the source documents.)

      In the Introduction, Kennedy gives some background and explains his goals in writing this book. He explains that he has been a lifelong Democrat, and that his family members have helped write many of the laws related to public health policies over the years; but that his personal experiences since 2005 have caused him to question connections between “Big Pharma” and government agencies. Kennedy has been a very vocal opponent of vaccines since 2005; claiming, among other things, that vaccines can lead to autism in children. The focus of this book, however, is on Dr. Anthony Fauci; and Kennedy’s main goal is to demonstrate that Dr. Fauci is more concerned with financial gain for himself and his associates than making sound decisions about public health.

      Over the first few chapters, Kennedy attempts to make the following main points: 1) There were several medications that were identified very early in the pandemic that had a least some evidence of being effective at preventing severe outcomes in COVID patients; but this information was suppressed by Fauci and the NIAID. 2) Dr. Fauci was focused on developing and approving a vaccine, mainly because Fauci and his associates stood to benefit financially from the vaccine and approved medications. Kennedy is able to cite different sources when it comes to data about the effectiveness of certain medical treatments, but his claims about Bill Gates’s motivations seem to be purely based on personal opinion, without compelling source evidence. This pattern shows up frequently in the book, where Kennedy presents interesting information about possible medical alternatives or mishandled government decisions, but then leaps to the conclusions that certain people are conspiring to kill millions of Americans in order to make more money. This could also be true, but the hundreds of pages of notes and source documents don’t provide much in the way of evidence of such diabolical intentions.

      Kennedy asserts that Bill Gates has full control over the World Health Organization, and that he funded fraudulent clinical trials in order to make hydroxychloroquine seem like an ineffective treatment. The goal here, according to Kennedy, was to make sure there were no accepted medical treatments, so that Gates and Fauci could push their vaccine agenda, and profit from approved medications like remdesivir. It is very obvious that Kennedy dislikes Gates and Fauci, and he even includes quotes from Gates that personally mention Kennedy as a famous anti-vaxxer. If you are reading this book from a truly neutral perspective, it takes some work to attempt to see through the biases and focus on the relevant science.

      The rest of the book is mostly focused on Fauci’s history; mainly dealing with his past working on the HIV/AIDS epidemic, and his association with clinical trials and medical treatments in Africa. Kennedy seems to intend to prove that Fauci is a racist that has been experimenting on Africans for years, though this isn’t much evidence supporting this conclusion. Kennedy’s most compelling charge against Fauci is probably his implication that through Fauci’s support of gain-of-function research, Fauci might have inadvertently contributed to the development of dangerous pathogens himself.

      Overall, this book provides some interesting details and links to lesser-known sources, though I would encourage readers to follow-up and read more about some of the science discussed in the book. The details about Dr. Fauci’s personal history, and about possible conflicts of interest, are certainly interesting and worth consideration; however there are also a few leaps in reasoning that seem very agenda-driven here. In can be true that Dr. Fauci has some conflicts of interest, without it also meaning that ALL vaccines are dangerous and responsible for a decline in American health. I do not agree with some of the assertions made in this book, but I can still appreciate the contribution to further discussions. Always consider the source, and try to absorb new information while drawing your own conclusions.

        Dec 23, 2021 23:53 PM

        Where did you copy and paste that from?

          Dec 23, 2021 23:00 PM

          Actually I just googled reviews and it popped up.

          I notice the author is a big antivaxer…big surprise there fer sure.

          And he talks about vaccines causing autism, kind of a clue there.

          Like the review says ” consider the source”.

            Dec 23, 2021 23:15 PM

            Maybe you ought to actually read the book before posting a review about it.

            The book documents corruption and evil. Here’s just one example: In an effort to discredit HCQ a Gates funded doctor in a “study” gave COVID patients toxic does of HCQ. Several died. But HCQ saved hundreds of thousands in countries not under the thumb of Gates and Fauci. Meanwhile, Fauci was pressuring states to disallow prescribing HCQ for COVID and several did.

            Hospitals routinely sent patients home with no treatment when drugs like HCQ could have saved them. And there’s no denying that. Read the book then read the citing documents.

            Of course there’s much more corruption and evil the book indisputably documents. To give all that a pass by mentioning none of it, you have to be a real evil POS 💀 💩

            Yet your review mentions none of that. You are either a brainwashed sheeple copying and pasting propaganda to support the fantasies you want to believe in or you’re a real POS, just like the reviewer.

            Dec 23, 2021 23:26 PM

            Hospitals routinely sent patients home with no treatment when drugs like HCQ could have saved them.

            And they would tell their patients to come back if they had trouble breathing. This is what the most expensive “healthcare” system in the world had to offer. It is criminal. And Fauci should be put on trial then hang for this.

            Dec 23, 2021 23:01 PM

            Geez you cant even handle a review that points out a few reasons to consider.

            I am not going to read an antivax book Eb, recall I gave up reading antivax posts here weeks ago.

            I got your guys point, vaccine bad, gonna kill everyone, we all doomed, medical community evil, ….that about right?

            Not arguing, I just disagree.

            Dec 24, 2021 24:24 AM

            You will continue to be a……………LOST BALL IN HIGH WEEDS…………. Fact are facts……

            In the next few weeks…….. I may open up a discussion, just how far back this entire Hoax, goes back….. I think I will even open up a discussion on Rumsfeld and the drug companies he worked for and with the association of Bush and the Military…..

            b
            Dec 24, 2021 24:01 AM

            Jerry/Eb
            You guys obviously enjoy the antivax narrative,….well…go with it, enjoy.
            I just disagree and have no use for it.

            I have seen your “facts”, I took the time to research some of your “facts” and each time I point out just how bogus many have been, you guys simply ignore.

            As in the last one you posted Jerry, 800 thousand people dead from the vaccine, no response,
            or Larry with “vaccines never helped anyone”, you guys dont hear yourselves.

            I just posted a review of your antivax book written by an antivaxer, good grief.
            How on earth can you guys take that as some kind of gospel? but thats the kind of “facts” you like so it fits right in I guess.

            One of your panics was concerning athletes dying, low and behold thats nothing new, I posted that has been happening since at least the 1800s with a very very long list.
            Typically, no response from any antivaxer, as usual.
            More of your “facts”. Bogus again.

            I have pointed out numerous times that nations that have been vaxed sufficiently have low/very low issues with covid deaths where as unvaxed nations have thousands dying,(no idea how your brains can block out that info) I have posted personal experience, um, doesnt match with your “facts”.

            Somehow you guys will come up with “facts” all the vaccinated people are dropping dead.

            With over 7 billion doses everyone should be dead in a year according to you guys.

            If your right, civil societies are finished. O well, so sad, too bad.

            Except, any adverse reactions we have from vaccines can be dealt with and the benifits of the vaccines far outweigh the risks of them.
            Yes, some people can die from the vaccine, the number is miniscule.

            You guys really should listen to all the David Icke stuff, he agrees 100% with you guys, has been warning forever about it,……its the lizard people dont ya know.

            As for me, I will continue to believe my own eyes, I dont see any use in those “facts”.

            I dont actually care for Ickes “facts” either.

            The best “facts” of course is there is a major shortage of silver, better buy it fast or you wont find any, we are going to use it as currency again. hurry hurry hurry. 😉
            Thats the best “fact”.

            I really have givin up on antivaxers, I really dont want to argue about it, I just disagree with you guys.

            Dec 24, 2021 24:03 PM

            Yep………. we enjoy the ANTI JABBER narrative……………
            Like I said………… I will be filling you in on what YOU do not KNOW in the coming Year….

            Notice…….. you said….. You took time … to research…..”SOME”…..that means NOT ALL..,
            So, that means YOU ARE STILL BEHIND…… 🙂

            Dec 24, 2021 24:48 PM

            B, you enjoy shielding yourself from reality that doesn’t fit with your biases, perceptions and probably fears. Being anti cvd jab is not the same thing as being an antivaxxer since the cvd jab isn’t a vax at all. But more importantly, you’re showing your brainwashing when you use the term antivaxxer. It’s a bullshit word pushed by the establishment’s media whores to shut down discussion about perfectly real concerns backed by mountains of evidence. It’s akin to shutting down Obama’s opponents by calling them racists. Or how about shutting down men with charges of “toxic masculinity”? How is it possible that a huge part of the population is stupid enough to fall for such insane and ridiculous efforts to manipulate and control us? I know I shouldn’t be surprised but I’ve always had a tendency to overestimate people because I can’t fathom their stupidity.
            And speaking of brainwashing, your words over the last ten years have shown that you should listen carefully to the following 5 minute clip by Thomas Sowell (it has nothing to do with the scamdemic)…
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0QGipjQ2sw&list=WL&index=61

            Dec 24, 2021 24:47 PM

            We cant all be geniuses Mathew.

            A little hint, insults get ya nowhere.

        Dec 23, 2021 23:25 PM

        Did you even read the book?

          Dec 24, 2021 24:49 PM

          We both know he hasn’t.

            Dec 24, 2021 24:39 PM

            Of course not.
            Why on earth would I read it?
            Says the same thing you guys say consistently.
            Vaccine bad, medical community evil, we all gonna die.
            Sound about right?

            oops, forgot all the “science and facts” that make it sound right.

            Did you read the reviews?

            Actually I dont care one way or another.

            Real simple, after over 7 billion doeses givin, if you guys are right we will have mass die offs….when? those goal posts seem to move.
            You guys say when and when that time comes we will know who is correct, fair enuff?

            Somethin tells me your not up for the challenge.
            Why? because its not happening thats why.

            You have to understand Mathew, of all you accuse me of is exactly as I see you.

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:45 AM

    You Guys can always trust my opinion……I’m always 100% right….

    .
    except when I’m wrong.
    .
    .
    Big Al, I don’t know why you still considered WaPo or NYT as purveyers of truth.
    They are so socialist biased.
    One of the reasons I DELIBERATELY BACK-UP MY STATEMENTS often with a citation,
    is that people were arguing with me, telling me I’m wrong.
    It is much harder for someone to do that against citations,
    PROVING ME CORRECT AT THE OUTSET.
    I know, for a FACT that I personally read much more than an average person.
    (Probably 20 times that of an average person. At least 3 to 5 times that of a “well-informed” person.)
    That is who/what I am. So, I don’t have a normal life….big deal.

      Dec 23, 2021 23:09 PM

      And that is one of the reasons, CFS, that I have so much respect for your opinion. I happen to follow your footsteps. God Bless, you

      Dec 23, 2021 23:30 PM

      CFS,

      I do not consider eitheer publication to necessarily be purveyors of truth. I have never said that I did

    CFS
    Dec 23, 2021 23:52 AM

    I am forced to conclude Biden wishes to destroy military capability of this country.
    (possibly because he is corrupt and bribed by China.)

    Logic: He is refusing any exemptions from his vaccine mandate:
    FACT: https://www.ntd.com/air-force-denies-2130-religious-exemptions-to-vaccine-mandate_718132.html
    SIMILARLY, EXEMPTIONS ARE REFUSED FOR ARMY AND NAVY.

      Dec 23, 2021 23:11 PM

      I have nothing to say about Biden other than I do not support the current executive office in any way shape or form.

      Dec 23, 2021 23:20 PM

      A lengthy, but, worthwhile read.

      Dec 23, 2021 23:18 PM

      I would appear that religous exemptions re: The Vaccine are impossible to obtain.

        Dec 24, 2021 24:25 AM

        Not impossible in the Bible Belt……. ….

      Dec 23, 2021 23:36 PM

      Here is an interesting direct quote from the article: ““I Hope you all cal do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro 30 years,” the text reads. “It’s really hard. But don’t worry unlike Pop I won’t make you give me half your salary.”

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:11 PM

    And you wonder why nobody is talking about the CORRUPT PRETENDENT ?
    It is simply that that piece of scum is protected by Facebook and much of the media.
    The apple fell close to the tree.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_UrM8TvGE

      Dec 23, 2021 23:38 PM

      It would appear that he is somewhat protected by Facebook and othersources.

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:13 PM

    Big Al, I am grateful for your forum.
    I know I use very provocative lnguage most of the time, but I’m trying to force people to think.
    I probably just turn people off, but I try no matter what they say of me, never to abuse people in this forum personally. They can call me stupid or ignorant or whatever, but they will find that I simply keep on coming back with data to support my arguments.

    What I find truly amazing is the partisan division in this country.
    I believe either party would support murder or whatever it takes, rather than blame a fellow party member of malfeasance.
    It disgusts me that Hillary can raise several Billion dollars for earthquake victims, but steal it for her own use,and despite Trump calling her a crook, no one will investigate the theft.
    America never used to be that way.

    Dec 23, 2021 23:44 PM

    Hello All …. Stunning Covid Data From Denmark. From what i am reading , from articles from around the World , Omicron , is no more dangerious than the common cold. TIME TO END THE VACINES & BOOSTERS ….. IMO.

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/stunning-covid-data-from-denmark

      Dec 23, 2021 23:51 PM

      Not sure why that is “stunning” data Tony, that was published within about 2 days of Omicron being discovered.

      More contagious but not very dangerous.

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:23 PM

    Let’s go Brandon…..
    What a contrast…..
    https://youtu.be/8QyDt8FhrMM?t=154

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:29 PM

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62757

    A judge or a socialist cretin ?

    CFS
    Dec 23, 2021 23:50 PM

    AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL:
    Kim Potter Convicted for Accidentally Shooting Daunte Wright,
    While Michael Byrd Was Never Even Charged for Intentionally Killing Ashli Babbitt
    Dec. 23, 2021

    CFS
    Dec 23, 2021 23:53 PM

    AND WE DON’T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE CAPITOL PLOICEMAN
    THAT BRUTALLY BEAT Ms. Boyland to death on Jan 6th…….YET

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:33 PM
    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:54 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZuPD1s8A7U

    AND A FAILURE IS LEADING US…..

    FACT: BIDEN has NOT ordered 500 million test kits.

    TIME TO RESIGN NOW.

    LETS GO BRANDON.

    Dec 23, 2021 23:21 PM

    I do not use Facebook, …. so…..

    Dec 23, 2021 23:45 PM

    Lizard Lightfoot….says your time is up…

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/chicago-mayor-lightfoot-to-unvaccinated-your-time-is-up/

    The Lightfoot…in the Jack Boot…is coming for you..eventually…

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:30 PM

    Having watched the feeble senility of Biden this week, I think he actually believes he beat Trump in an election……..not that he was placed as Pretendent puppet by deep state operatives stealing the election.

    Interesting.

    Of course, I could be wrong, because he clearly has memory problems and problems with simple cognition. e.g. he confused “pills” with covid testing, which is bizarre, because he is reported as being tested frequently, but apparently cannot remember what is involved in testing.
    I do know he lied about placing orders for 500,000,000 tests, since manufacturers are reporting no such orders placed,
    https://nypost.com/2021/12/23/biden-has-yet-to-sign-contracts-for-promised-500m-at-home-covid-tests/

    cfs
    Dec 23, 2021 23:40 PM

    The CDC director talked about the one omicron variant death.
    It is not clear to me that it actually was an omicron death:
    https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/12/21/22848487/first-omicron-variant-death-us-harris-houston-texas

    cfs
    Dec 24, 2021 24:12 AM

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/mrna-vaccine-inventor-issues-warning-parents-not-give-children-unproven-vaccines-may-permanently-damage-organs-reproductive-system-immunity/

    Is there not something sinister behind White House insistence on development of vaccines for children?

    Never in my life before have I ever considered government actually desiring to HARM CHILDREN, but one no has to wonder.
    The evidence is beginning to point beyond greed or greed for power.
    Children cannot vote.
    SCIENCE AND INFORMATION IS NOW BECOMING SO ADVERSE to WH policy.

    cfs
    Dec 24, 2021 24:53 AM

    LIFE IS ABOUT PROBABILITIES……
    .
    So let’s talk about probabilities:
    1. Suppose you are a child (under 18)
    If you become infected now, what are the probability of getting the omicron variant ?
    Answer about 90% and the chance of being dead or seriously il: ZERO
    Suppose you don’t get omicron but another variant ?
    What is the chance of dying or being seriously ill…….answer about 0.1% OR EVEN LESS AS THERAPIES IMPROVE.
    .
    So let’s combine these probabilities……
    ,
    The danger of someone under 18 getting seriously ill or dying is about 0.01% or less.

    It seems to me we should question WHY biden is focusing on vaccines, where the danger from the vaccine exceeds the danger from covid.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxMBpNdbGTs

    cfs
    Dec 24, 2021 24:03 PM

    And just reported on LBC News out of London UK, about 5% of Londoners actually currently have covid……most totally asymptomatic. This conclusion based on large scale random testing.

    Since the immunity acquired from having the disease IS FAR BETTER than vaccine immunity, it seems to me A TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY doing furter development of vaccines.
    Surely all of us will have gotten and survived covid before any further vaccines can be developed.h

      Dec 24, 2021 24:08 PM

      Worst Part……..is the JAB….. stays in your SYSTEM… and is SURE TO CAUSE DAMAGE….. as it already has… to several DEAD PEOPLE…. MORE TO COME ON THE SCAM…. going back to 1988…
      and some Drug companies….. that no one was or is talking about……………..

      MORE ON THE MORON…….doubling down Trumpster…………he may as well just retreat to his island., … even if, he gets elected, …. he is just part of the dog and pony show….
      $1 Million donation from Pfizer….. scam a minute……

    Dec 24, 2021 24:59 PM

    The tipping Point – Their Plan Isnt Working… This is a hopefull message. Watch 10 minutes.

    https://youtu.be/0xQ_OTilgEM

      Dec 24, 2021 24:26 PM

      Thanks Tony, excellent and hopeful video.
      Merry Christmas to you and thanks for your posts.

        Dec 24, 2021 24:13 PM

        Hello Robert…. Thank You . And a Verry Happy Christmas To You & Yours … & a verry healthy new year to you all.

          Dec 24, 2021 24:18 PM

          BTW … Nugent is an Irish surname , are you irish , or of Irish decent ?

            Dec 24, 2021 24:30 PM

            Yes. I have researched my great great grandparents to a place close to Cork. They came to Canada about 1864.

    Dec 24, 2021 24:21 PM

    Some humour at Christmas time. Is this satire from an actress , or the rantings of a mad women.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/rnt2fp/its_not_real_but_its_real_to_the_people_that_want/

    Dec 24, 2021 24:33 PM

    A little , & important gift to my friends at the KER at Christmas . Enjoy.

    https://www.songfacts.com/lyrics/harry-belafonte/marys-boy-child

    Dec 24, 2021 24:59 PM

    Merry Christmas………… TO ALL……..and . A GOOD NITE…… 🙂

    AJ
    Dec 25, 2021 25:18 AM

    Guests urged to be vaccinated at anti-vaxxer Robert F Kennedy Jr’s party
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/18/robert-f-kennedy-jr-cheryl-hines-party-vaccinated-guests

    It’s just a business model