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Trader Vic – What The Market End Looks Like

Cory
November 17, 2017

This interview with Trader Vic was recorded later in the day yesterday. Last time I chatted with Trader Vic he made the comment that “the market is going to end”. I received a couple comments asking him to detail more what that looks like. We also comment on the potential of tax reform and our doubts about how much the overall economy will benefit.

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76 Comments
    Nov 17, 2017 17:39 AM

    Today should be the time to get back into Weed and ACB as they have corrected for several days.

      Nov 17, 2017 17:47 AM

      Bot weed at 16.80 and 17.18 and now over 18. Bought ACB at 5.03 and now at 5.53.

        Nov 17, 2017 17:13 AM

        APH would be a good choice as well since it will play catch up to ACB and WEED on valuation basis

          b
          Nov 17, 2017 17:06 AM

          imo, all the cdn pot stocks are good.
          my favorite is acb and weed is obvious, but in the cdn pot case, i think the “be right and sit tight” rule applies.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:15 AM

            I chose acb and weed because when I researched these were the only ones on the TSX. I don’t want to take a chance on a venture stock exchange company.

    Nov 17, 2017 17:43 AM

    XOP has moved above the ribbon of 8 moving averages and starting to make some money:
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/3KADNJ0y/

    Nov 17, 2017 17:03 AM

    Glenfiddish, The hottest housing market in the world is facing a reckoning! DT
    http://business.financialpost.com/real-estate/in-toronto-worlds-hottest-housing-market-starting-to-boil-over

    Nov 17, 2017 17:08 AM

    It’s game time! GGI (Garibaldi Resources Corp) is HALTED.

        Nov 17, 2017 17:30 AM

        The question is….. will the assays reveal what investors think they could be?

        It is hilarious as there are over 300 users in just the GGI room at ceo. To say this is hotly anticipated news is an understatement. (The fact that it is coming out on a Friday is a bit concerning though). Maybe they’ll just keep it halted until Monday.

          Nov 17, 2017 17:31 AM

          Make that over 360 users in the GGI room now:

          https://ceo.ca/ggi

            Nov 17, 2017 17:39 AM

            This is going to be epic either way this news breaks. I’ve never seen so many eyeballs on one story in the entire time I’ve been on ceo.ca. Even NXE or NVO or GTT only had 50-100 people in there in most of the peak news days. Wow!

            I will laugh heartily if this news is not the assays and just some other news update.

        Nov 17, 2017 17:46 AM

        Not sure that logic makes sense here as they would just wait until Monday to Gault trading then spew the bad assays from there. We will all know soon enough

          Nov 17, 2017 17:57 AM

          Well the rule of thumb with press releases is to put out bad/underwhelming news on Friday and good news at the beginning of the week. I’ve also seen plenty of company halt trading for news for several days before breaking it to the market.

          Apparently others are debating the same things…..

          @VerificationCode halted till monday is realistic but what im saying is we will likely get news before 4pm est

          @bud1980 – “I don’t see the point of releasing a news after the market has been already open for 2 hours… its gotta be at the end of the day”

          ______________________________

          Exciting isn’t it? 😮

            Nov 17, 2017 17:59 AM

            @BlockChainZ – “What time did the old release come… same date Nov 17… which year? and WHAT TIME??”

            🙂

            Nov 17, 2017 17:18 AM

            And meanwhile back at the Auryn ranch …😴😴😴😴

            Nov 17, 2017 17:45 AM

            There are a lot of sleepy ranches in the Jr Miners these days.

            Just like most retail investors are obsessed with huge concentration in the FANG stocks, the same has happened in Jr Miners.

            NVO, GGI, NNA, AU, GTT, and a few other exploration stories sucked all the wind out of the room this year.

            Other sectors have definitely outperformed most Jr Miners, but that is encouraging because markets will return to the mean over time. Other sectors will come back down to Earth, and unloved sectors like the miners will have their day. (2018 has an encouraging set up).

            Nov 17, 2017 17:04 AM

            I hear you…I meant that more regarding lack of any results considering they originally said homestake results early October than before end of October then…you get the picture. Have totally lost credibility with an investors as far as I’m concerned..

            Nov 17, 2017 17:30 AM

            The assay labs are all backed up. Most companies are still way behind on reporting drill results from the last few months.

            Nov 18, 2017 18:49 AM

            Thanks for that info.

          Nov 17, 2017 17:12 PM

          Well, as mentioned GGI didn’t release the news today and are waiting until Monday or later. That is a bit more encouraging than a Friday news bomb.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:23 PM

            Good post from Brandon – the CEO of Fireweed Zinc:

            Brandon – “There’s going to be some “I told you so” coming from the naysayers on $GGI if the assays aren’t good, and there’s unlikely to be many who admit they are wrong.

            But here’s a question: if a friend insisted constantly that putting everything on number 22 for roulette was a winning strategy, and they wanted to “bet the farm” on it, would you be telling them not to? Would you be humbly apologetic if they went for it and the spin came up 22? I think what’s missing from the discussion around all these plays is that it isn’t just about people being either 100% wrong or 100% right. The bulls and the bears on these plays can have elements right.

            Maybe $GGI results come out looking good and they find a great deposit, but does that mean the way the market has priced them right now is correct? Does that really make them a safe speculation? If you can only justify a speculative play with hindsight, then it wasn’t a good speculative play.”

      Nov 17, 2017 17:59 PM

      Expect The Next Novo Insider Post in The Not Too Distant future

      The Hedgeless Horseman – November 18, 2017

      http://www.thehedgelesshorseman.com/novo-resources/expect-next-novo-insider-post-not-distant-future/

        Nov 17, 2017 17:22 PM

        Ex, Bigsky on HotCopper has a fairly decent opinion. Check this PIO thread and look at those nuggets.

        Bidsky writes: IMO not just any cong will do. What is needed is the magic combo of MRB underlain by the basal cong over a significant unconformity. The unconformity provides the time gap needed (several hundred MYrs) to erode the source rock and rework and concentrate the nuggets in the shoreline high energy marine environment. All the clues lead to this. A few clues are: Beatons Ck is in younger Hardey Formation cong and is low grade. KAI went looking in conglom overlying MRB (despite what some might have us believe) and found a few colours but no watermelon seeds (their eastern tenement is a much better target). MZN have cong underlying MRB but with no unconformity and despite long term exploration at the Bellary Dome no one has reported watermelon seeds. Watermelon seeds at Purdys, Comet Well and Loudens Patch all have the goods as I believe do HAO. Historical finds of watermelon seeds at Egina and on PIO ground are within cooee of Basal MRB and are likely alluvial deposits relatively recently eroded from the Wits 2 cong. PIO at Kangan IMO will prove to have the Wits 2 source rocks with basal MRB cong with a significant unconformity over the older Cleaverville Formation. There are many claiming to have the right stuff, and no doubt there will be many low grade redeposited cong gold deposits found in younger rocks, but if ya want the ridgey didge Wits 2 Conglomerate with the watermelon seed bed ya need basal MRB cong overlying a significant unconformity.

        IMO DYOR

        Cheers
        BS

        https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/ozwtisgold-and-pio-reference.3824493/#post-28913669

    Nov 17, 2017 17:17 AM

    URA now at 13.78. You could have bought at 13.06 on Wednesday. This may head higher than 14.40 this time.

      Nov 17, 2017 17:46 AM

      Paul:
      Are you anticipating something big in Uranium or simply trading for some modest gains in URA? I’m hoping to see UEC take out it’s August high so I can lighten up. Too early for the “rip your face off bull market” that many are waiting for. JMO

        Nov 17, 2017 17:32 AM

        Just trading based on charts and not any news. When the RSI was near 15 or 20 I bought at 11.95 and sold for my 1st trade. Longer term it could be a good trade to $18.

    Nov 17, 2017 17:34 AM

    Interesting that GGI is Halted on the same day that Voisey’s bay was discovered 24 years to the day. I wonder if the geologist over at GGI think they have something?

      Nov 17, 2017 17:24 AM

      That is a pretty interesting tidbit. Many have been describing it’s potential as Voisey’s Bay 2.0. (of course other companies have claimed that in the past).

      There are many that have banked a fortune on that being correct, and I hope it is as a ton of investors will make a crapload of money, and some of those profits will find their way back into other mining stocks, and light a bigger fire under discovery.

      If they disappoint it will just be more mining carnage as usual.

      Rooting for a big success here, and normally there aren’t 360 investors crammed into a blog about Nickel. This would be a big score for Base Metals and Battery Metals.

    Nov 17, 2017 17:35 AM

    GGI is either gonna have a triple gap up when it opens or it’s gonna collapse 75%

      Nov 17, 2017 17:25 AM

      Either way….. it’s gonna be EPIC!

    Nov 17, 2017 17:49 AM

    Always enjoy Trader Vic!
    MIF has the first videos up from their November conference.
    metalsinvesterforum.com

    Nov 17, 2017 17:16 AM

    This piece from Danielle Parks could be beneficial to those playing the bitcoin mania. Good listen IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM_b5O2M_jc&feature=youtu.be

    Nov 17, 2017 17:31 AM

    Always good to hear Vic Soprano! And he’s right about the tax “reform.” It’s a scam.
    And these corrupt politicians are doing nothing to cut spending.

    Watch the bond market. Here’s some morning porridge for you boys, although I just had gruel…nice gruel as Walter Block would say…

    http://billblain.wixsite.com/porridge/single-post/2017/11/17/Blains-Morning-Porridge—Nov-17th-The-Great-Crash-of-2018-Look-to-the-bond-markets-to-trigger-Mayhem

      Nov 17, 2017 17:15 AM

      All taxes are a scam

      Nov 17, 2017 17:18 AM

      Greg Mannorino would agree with you on watching the bond market

    Nov 17, 2017 17:49 AM

    Oil held strongly at 55 for 2 days so it had to go up. CNBC’s Kilduff was saying we could now head into the 40’s. Bad advice. It is headed for 58 or 59 which is the 200 week average.
    The Saudis have to push this to the 65 to 70 area for their big IPO next year or the IPO will flop.

      Nov 17, 2017 17:31 AM

      That was a pretty funny article Jason.

    Nov 17, 2017 17:11 AM
    Nov 17, 2017 17:48 AM

    Nick French: We Are Approaching The Cobalt Cliff

    By Collin Kettell – November 17, 2017 #AudioInterview

    http://palisaderadio.com/nick-french-we-are-approaching-the-cobalt-cliff/

      Nov 17, 2017 17:07 AM

      Is there any cobalt mine of significance in size that will be online within a year or two in North America ???

        Nov 17, 2017 17:36 AM

        No, but there are a few Australian ones getting in cue. Cobalt is mostly a byproduct of Nickel or Copper mining, so there may be a few that start contributing.

        Here is my updated list of companies with some exposure to Cobalt.

        Cobalt Stocks / Primary Symbol / OTC symbol

        AEON METALS $AML.AX
        ALDERSHOT RESOURCES LTD $ALZ $ALZTF
        ALLOY RESOURCES $AYR.AX
        AMERICAN MANGANESE INC $AMY $AMYZF
        ARDEA RESOURCES $ARL.AX $ARRRF
        ARTEMIS RESOUCES LTD $ARV.AX $ARTTF
        AUROCH MINERALS LTD $AOU.AX
        AUSTRALIAN MINES $AUZ.AX
        BARRA RESOURCES $BAR.AX
        BERKUT MINERALS $BMT.AX
        BLINA RESOURCES NA $BDI.AX
        BRIXTON METALS CORP $BBB $BXTMF
        BROKEN HILL PROSPECTING $BPL.AX
        CANADIAN INTL MINERALS INC $CIN $CDNMF
        CANADIAN SILVER HUNTER INC $AGH-H
        CASTLE SILVER RES INC $CSR $TAKRF
        CBLT INC $CBLT
        CELSIUS RESOURCES LTD $CLA.AX
        CHINA MOLYBDENUM CO LTD $3993.HK $CMCLF
        CLEAN TEQ HOLDINGS LTD $CLQ.AX $CTEQF
        COBALT 27 CAPITAL CORP $KBLT $CBLLF
        COBALT BLUE $COB.AX
        COBALT ONE $CO1.AX $CLLTF
        COBALT POWER GROUP INC $CPO
        COBALTECH MINING INC $CSK $BNCIF
        COLLERINA COBALT LTD $CLL.AX
        CONICO LTD $CNJ.AX
        CORAZON MINING $CZN.AX
        CRUZ COBALT CORP $CUZ $BKTPF
        DGR GLOBAL $DGR.AX $DGGRF
        ECOBALT SOLUTIONS INCORPORATED $ECS $ECSIF
        EQUATOR RESOURCES $EQU.AX
        EUROPEAN COBALT LTD $EUC.AX $WMNNF
        FIRST COBALT CORP $FCC
        FORTUNE MINERALS LTD $FT $FTMDF
        GEOVIC MINING CORP $GVCM
        GLOBAL ENERGY METALS $GEMC $GBLEF
        GME RESOURCES LTD $GME.AX $GMRSF
        GOLDEN MILE RESOURCES LTD $G88.AX
        GREAT BOULDER RESOURCES $GBR.AX
        GREEN SWAN CAPITAL CORP $GSW
        HARD CREEK NICKEL $HNC $HNCKF
        HIGHLANDS PACIFIC LTD $HIG.AX $HLPCF
        HINTERLAND METALS INC $HMI $HNLMF
        INTREPID MINES $IAU.AX $IAUFF
        JERVOIS MINING LTD $JRV.AX
        KATANGA MINING LTD $KAT $KATFF
        KINGS BAY GOLD CORP $KBG $KBGCF
        LICO ENERGY METALS $LIC $WCTXF
        METALSTECH LTD $MTC.AX
        METEORIC RESOURCES NL $MEI.AX
        MIDNIGHT SUN MINING CORP $MMA $MDNGF
        MONTEZUMA MINING CO $MZM.AX
        NZURI COPPER LTD $NZC.AX
        PLATINA RESOURCES $PGM.AX $PTNUF
        POWER AMERICAS MINERALS CORP $PAM $PWMRF
        QUANTUM COBALT CORP $QBOT $BRVVF
        RIVA RESOURCES $RIR.AX
        SHERRITT INTERNATIONAL CORP $S $SHERF
        SUMITOMO METAL MINING CO $SMMYY
        SUNVEST MINERALS CORP $SSS $SRKZF
        SUPREME METALS CORP $ABJ
        UMICORE $NVJN.F $UMICF
        US COBALT INC $USCO $USCFF
        WOLFDEN RESOURCES $WLF $WLFFF

          Nov 17, 2017 17:41 AM

          Sorry, I didn’t fix that list yet. Here are a few corrections:

          Green Swan Capital is now CBLT

          Hard Creek Nickel is now Giga Metals (GIGA) (HNCKD)

          Remo Resources (RER) should be added

          St George Mining (SGQ.AX) also has some cobalt in with their base metals.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:22 AM

            Thanks. I’m hoping for a pure play in North America which is what Elon Musk wants to have. A stable source

            Nov 17, 2017 17:35 AM

            Some of those above are about as pure play as one can get, since it will always be a polymetallic deposit. Many of those are in North America.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:38 AM

            The problem is that many of the Canadian Cobalt companies are way behind on developing their historic resources, and thus the Australians have the jump on larger deposits outside of the Congo.

            There are some good North American Nickel and Copper projects w/ Cobalt co-products.

            There are VERY few pure Cobalt companies, just like there are very few pure Zinc or Silver deposits. There is typically a range of base metals all mixed together. This is where smelter penalties or credits come into the mix as well….

            Nov 17, 2017 17:26 PM

            Thanks again. At least gold is looking better. 😁

            Nov 17, 2017 17:59 PM

            Yes, Gold above $1290. Silver up near $17.30 most of the day. Nice to see.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:31 PM

            Wolfster:
            You might look at ECSIF. I use to be invested back when they were Formation Capitol.
            I know they are in Idaho. I don’t know much else as to their schedule for production,
            I sold my shares years ago . Now I wish I had kept them.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:33 PM

            JohnK – Yes eCobalt Solutions is a popular name in the sector, although I’ve seem some knock their valuation compared to other peers from people following the space closely. I’ve also seen investors I respect like Jay (Fi Fighter) take reasonable sized positions in it though, so it warrants a deeper dive. Being in Idaho for mining is a strength IMO. In addition, ECS does get reasonable enough daily liquidity to trade in and out of it.

            Another one to watch is First Cobalt who is in a current 3-way merger with Cobalt One and CobalTech.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:37 PM

            I still have a position in Brixton Metals (BBB) (BXTMF), which is mostly focused on Silver and Gold, but does have a substantial land package and historic Cobalt/Silver resources in the “Cobalt” camp in Ontario. It was a past producing Silver mine, so permitting should be easier, there are still resources all around the old mine, and much of the infrastructure is already in place.
            ____________________________________________________________________

            Langis-Hudson Bay Silver-Cobalt Project Summary (Brixton Metals)

            http://brixtonmetals.com/properties/langis-silver-cobalt-project/

            Nov 17, 2017 17:51 PM

            CobalTech and First Cobalt Sign Definitive Agreement

            (Marketwired – Aug. 21, 2017) – First Cobalt Corp. (FCC)(FTSSF)

            http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/cobaltech-and-first-cobalt-sign-definitive-agreement-tsx-venture-fcc-2230828.htm

            Nov 17, 2017 17:54 PM

            I’ve seen a fair bit of chatter about Cobalt 27 (KBLT) (CBLLF) as they are going to be a Cobalt holding company. From what I understand it will be similar to what Uranium Participation corp does in that space to capitalize on ebbs and flows in spot pricing.

            Nov 17, 2017 17:57 PM

            Here is the Cobalt 27 website: http://www.co27.com/

            I like the idea, but honestly rarely go with company like Uranium Participation corp or USO for oil, or GLD for Gold, because the Jr miners offer 2-4 times the leverage of the underlying commodity. If you are bullish the commodity, then why not position in the leveraged miners for that commodity?

      Nov 17, 2017 17:00 PM

      Is This The Tesla Killer?

      Nov 16, 2017


      It seems that we’re on the cusp of a solid-state battery revolution. The latest company to announce progress in developing the new type of battery is Fisker. It has filed patents for solid-state batteries and it expects the batteries to be produced on a mass scale around 2023.”

      “Fisker claims the batteries underdevelopment have a density of 2.5x when compared to the standard EV batteries. This should give the range of a Fisker vehicle well over a 500-mile and recharging capabilities in as little as a minute.”

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-16/tesla-killer

        Nov 17, 2017 17:04 PM

        From the piece above:

        “Musk will shortly developed uncontrollable convulsions with the understanding his Gigafactory producing thin-film #lithium batteries could be obsolete.”

    Nov 17, 2017 17:46 AM

    4-3-2-1 here comes the 4 mil oz gold dump?

      Nov 17, 2017 17:38 PM

      Actually no dump came today, and Gold closed back above $1290 at $1294.40.

      Silver closed at $17.31

      Not too shabby…..

    Nov 17, 2017 17:55 AM

    URA at 14.06 now and XOP hit 35 finally.

      Nov 17, 2017 17:05 PM

      Energy stocks are on the move…..

    Nov 17, 2017 17:31 PM