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July 23, 2011

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In this show Al discusses:

  • Segment 1 – A listener requests comments on Christianity vs. Capitalism. Al and Peter Grandich discuss.
  • Segment 2 – Keith Schaefer discusses energy issues.
  • Segment 3 – Rick Ackerman discusses Greece and the U.S. from a deficit standpoint.
  • Segment 4 – Al and Steve Taylor discuss the U.S. deficits impact on personal investing.
  • Segment 5 – Jordan Roy-Byrne talks about gold and gold stocks.
  • Segment 6 – Roger Wiegand discuss macro-economic issues.
  • Segment 7 – Roger Wiegand discusses some of his covered companies.
  • Segment 8 – Sean Brodrick of Weiss Research discusses gold, silver and mining companies.



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47 Comments
    Ron
    Jul 23, 2011 23:05 AM

    We keep hearing experts in “gold stocks” say that they are mystified. They don’t understand why people haven’t bought into the stocks and wonder why the HUI and XAU are not higher. Let me explain why I think that investors are staying away from the stocks: it is because they are not stupid. When an investor buys shares, he hands over his money to a company manager who can do anything that he want to with it. The managers can pay themselves big fat bonuses, even if they screw up and don’t manage to mine any precious metal. They can ‘dilute’ shares, meaning that they can go out sell a gazillion shares which means as an investor, you will get nothing back for your investment. The problem is that there can be no trust in the market. Trustworthiness has been shattered. We see the Fraudulent Five banksters robbing their clients, robbing investors through deception, fraudulent documentation, front running on the NYSE and manipulation of stock prices through High Frequency Trading. There is no one there to stop them. The government ‘cops’ or regulators as they are called, are in bed with the crooks, letting them destroy and rob whatever wealth that an investor has. In some cases, it is their life savings. Until trust can be restored, you will not find me in the market. It will take some doing for the bonds of trust, tattered and broken as they are, to be restored. In order to gain the trust of investors, the market managers will have to become trustworthy. The corruption on Wall Street is so pervasive that it is likely to be a decade or two before the bad apples are cleaned out of the system. Until then, you can say adios to smart investor money.

      Jul 23, 2011 23:20 AM

      Good Morning Ron,

      You make some interesting points, particularly regarding the conventional markets. Let me suggest the following to you regarding the resource sector.

      The really big money is made by resource company executives through share price appreciation. It is a small sector where pretty much everyone knows what everyone else is doing. Salaries, for example, have to be fully disclosed and my experience is that they, for the most part, are not anywhere near huge.

      Yes, dilution caused by financing’s is something to consider and, with a few exceptions, I invest in companies with a low number of shares outstanding.

      Having said that, let me give you a couple of examples of what I am talking about.

      First of all, compensation to mining executives, staff, etc. comes in a large part through options. (Just like Microsoft, Boeing, etc.) In order for there to be any profit from those options the companies have to perform so that the respective share prices appreciate. (Obviously, investors have to be watchful of the trends here.) You can tell how many options management, etc. have by simply reading the financial statements which come out, by law, quarterly and by reading all press releases from the company.

      Option exercises are a typical source of revenue for both companies and staff. Another source is, obviously,straight share price appreciation allowing these folks to profit from their investments. (Number of shares held by management is also disclosed by law.)

      What I am saying here is that unless companies perform, the people involved in them do not make the big bucks. This is the main reason that I love this industry. There are no government bailouts for these little, relatively speaking, companies.

      Now, one last point.

      Management is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. It is pretty easy for these folks to “milk the system” by lying, cheating, etc. That is why in all of my investments I am very knowledgeable of the management. Trust me, if I am not I definitely do not write a check.

      In my humble opinion, the mining sector is the best example of pure capitalism I have ever seen.

      Best,

      Big Al

    Jul 23, 2011 23:15 AM

    I am in Canada and I concurr with Ron. I got into physical PM because I was getting my wealth destroyed by the market and its criminal sleight of hand artists, short sellers ect. As for government they are just an accessory to the crime.

      Jul 23, 2011 23:22 AM

      Hi Steven,

      I too buy physical, but I am more involved in the stocks for the reasons I mentioned in my response to Ron.

      You, my friend, live in a great country.

      Big Al

    Jul 23, 2011 23:11 AM

    I agree that the regulators are incompetent, but that IS government. Does government do anything well?
    However, I disagree about mining companies. While there are many fraudsters in the business, that are only in business to obtain a meal ticket from investors, there are also many honest miners. I listen to this show so I can gain knowledge and be able to tell the difference between a hole in the ground with a liar standing by it and a sincere attempt to extract minerals for society. I am grateful to Big Al for his effort to present good companies. (I know it takes a lot of work, for which we pay him nothing other than a little time of clicking on some ads.)

      Jul 23, 2011 23:23 AM

      Many thanks David.

      I don’t do what I do for money, I do it for my love of the industry.

      Have a great weekend,

      Big Al

    Jul 23, 2011 23:28 AM

    Ron, your perspective mirrors my own regarding Wallstreet and the gang of crooks who seek to separate you from your money. You cannot have an honest investment market when the winners predetermined the outcome of these investments. And the outcome usually lines their pockets and not the smaller investers.

    Jul 23, 2011 23:31 AM

    I too agree that the Junior mining sector has to be the hardest place for investors to make any money. It is fraught with ‘pump and dump’ schemes and the many newsletter writers that seem to get preferential stock deals while investors end up holding the bag. There are 4,000+ junior mining stocks and only perhaps 5% of them actually are worth investing in. For the average investor, trying to wade through the other 95% of the dross without the benefit of Insider information is a mamoth task. A very few people get lucky in this industry and happen to own one of the stocks that goes up 500%. For the majority of other investors, we are left holding near worthless stock if we choose to hold for more than a very short term.
    Despite record commodity prices, most Juniors are still down 50% or more in the past few months. Hardly a glowing recommendation to put one’s hard earned money in this sector.
    I may sound negative and perhaps thats because I’ve spent the best part of 14 years attempting to invest in the Junior mining sector and to date my losses still vastly out-weigh any gains I’ve made and I consider myself one who tries to do thes best due dilligence one can, given the available information.
    While its a tantalising prospect to put money into the Juniors miners in the hope of getting one big winner, its probably more likely to be profitable to go to a casino and put everything on a single number on a roulette wheel…
    good luck all.

      Jul 23, 2011 23:47 PM

      Hi Robert,”

      I agree with you about the challenges facing a “part time” resource stock investor. Having said that here is my portfolio of mining shares, my original costs and the prices today:

      American Manganese $0.30 then $0.60 now
      Candente Gold $0.50 then $0.53 now
      Colorado Resources $0.30 then $0.93 now
      Indico Resources $0.15 then $0.33 now
      Animas Resources $0.30 then $0.21 now
      Rugby Mining $0.80 then $1.20 now
      Premium Exploration $0.30 then $0.375 now
      White Tiger Mining $0.30 then $0.23 now (announced last week that I will sell after this coming Tuesday, 7/26
      Orex Minerals $0.80 then $0.88 now
      Canasil Resources $0.15 then $0.345 now
      Caza Gold $0.35 then $0.355 now
      Silver Quest Resources $1.25 then $1.13 now
      Soho Resources $0.10 then $0.85 now
      Ethos Capital $0.40 then $1.28 now

      I pretty much did this quickly. I do know that the prices are accurate. I did publish my portfolio a few weeks back so if I left any mining company out, please let me know.

      Now I want to stress that I know the management of each company that I have invested in quite well. I can tell you that I definitely trust each one of them.

      By the way I did not include Nova Gold, Exeter Resources and Extorre Gold because I am invested in them through the Encompass Fund.

      DO NOT CONSTRUE THIS AS BEING INVESTMENT ADVICE BECAUSE IT IS NOT. IT IS NOT A SOLICITATION TO ANYONE READING THIS SUGGESTING THEY PURCHASE ANY OF THE STOCKS I HAVE MENTIONED.

      I am not a registered investment adviser (they have to disclose this) but I do feel that this disclosure on my part is the right thing to do.

      Best,

      Big Al

      Jul 24, 2011 24:27 AM

      Well here is a part-time investor that has been living quite nicely off his investments for 27 years. I like to travel and typically cruise 10-12 weeks a year. It is possible to make money in the stockmarket no matter whether stocks go up or down, but it is vital to control risk and losses.

      here are some tips, you will not hear elsewhere……
      1. Watch dilution. If a company issues more than 5% in options per year, dump it.
      Yes, it is necessary to incentivise management, but at any hint that a company has an atitude that management is more important than investor shareholders, the investor is going to be short-changed.
      2. While it is reasonable to change the name of a company at start-up, if after a decade of running the company it changes its name, dump it. Suspect that management wants to make it harder to look up past history. May be right, maybe wrong, but this is risk management!
      3. It is necessary to raise money for development of a mine, but watch warrants carefully in refinancings. Brokerage houses love to short shares as warrants become exercisable. It is much better NOT to hold a company as it goes down and then back up, no matter how much you might love the company. It is better to sell and then buy back in after the drop in share price.
      4. Watch your trading costs. Even with discount brokers like Scottrade and Fidelity, a round trip buy and sell is going to cost $14 plus the bid-ask spread. It is possibly good to diversify, but if you only put a few hundred dollars in a stock in the hope it is going to be a ten-bagger, you are an amateur that should not be in the business.
      5. Watch the time you have held the stock for the transition between short and long term capital gains. It is much better to take a loss under short term taxation and much better to take a gain under long term taxation, no matter whether you love or hate the stock.

        Jul 24, 2011 24:37 AM

        6. If a stock has a large number of shares and decides to have a reverse split. Dump it. If management has been profligate in options and warrants in financings in the past it would be a sign of lunacy according to Einstein) to expect any difference in the future. Risk management again….playing the odds.

          Jul 24, 2011 24:28 AM

          Great advice, David.

          Sounds like you are a pretty savvy investor/trader.

          Big Al

      Jul 24, 2011 24:50 AM

      Sorry for all the bad luck. I do not share your experience in the junior resource sector. It makes me wonder exactly how yo go about about buying your junior Gold companies? If you cannot tell me or anyone else, then maybe that is part of the problem. There are technicals and fundamentals. But there is also an art to doing this. With time, you should get better. If not, it is not a sector you should be in.

    Jul 23, 2011 23:03 PM

    To learn more about the PM mining sector please listen to one of the experts, former Newmont Mining president and current Franco Nevada president, Pierre Lassonde, http://www.kingworldnews.com. This man has forgotten more about PM mining than any of us will ever know.

      Jul 23, 2011 23:48 PM

      Great point Tommy John.

      Best,

      Big Al

        Jul 23, 2011 23:28 PM

        Al, Have you ever thought about having Eric King on your program? Have the two of you ever met?

          Jul 23, 2011 23:53 PM

          HI Matt,

          Actually, no. We have never met. I will look into your suggestion.

          Best,

          Big Al

          Aug 25, 2012 25:35 PM

          I suppose plnkas are my favorite mainly because you don’t need any equipment and can feel the burn! I am working to improve my form on the side plnkas those are hard for me! I just RSVP’ed for the #ffcheer brunch after the 10K event on the 17th! I look forward to meeting you there!

      Jul 24, 2011 24:14 AM

      If you invest in Pierre Lassonde’s two Gold companies alone, FNV and NGD, you would likely be doing pretty good because he is an incredible manager. I agree with Al. Management is extremely important. I take it one step further. Management is THE factor. I don’t care what the actual or inferred resource is or how much money is in the bank. That manager has to be a proven manager. It all starts with that. It has to do with integrity, putting the shareholders first and of course, technical skill. I just got out of two juniors because management wasn’t straight with me. Pierre Lassonde? That is at the the very top of the list. Anyone who does not know this cannot tellthe difference between Gold and brass.

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    Jul 23, 2011 23:43 PM

    Al, in the second half of your weekend show you had Jordan Ray-Byrne, who talked about the ‘secular’ bull markets. I would like to check something with you, so I know if I understood him correctly?

    He first mentions a mild general correction coming for the next little while. Then he refers to these secular bull markets’ acceleration in the 11th-12th year. And finally he notes that the final parabolic move is separated by a gap. Is this coming correction that gap?

    If I just look at investing in physical silver – did he mean a pending correction coming, that would be the actual gap between now and a final parabolic move? (I know you are buying every month, I am just hoping to find out if we’ll ever see it lower than today’s price before something big happens and from what he said that seems likely.) After sept’10 and feb’11.. a more pronounced correction does not seem impossible. Or have I misunderstood him and silver is just again taking off right now?

    My second question to you: Given the pump and dump state of the juniors these days – what is a realistic Canasil stock value to watch out for in the fall? 0.50-0.60? or should I look for higher. Unfortunatelly I hurried with Canasil like others and did not take advantage of this summer weakness, which would have been much more profitable. (As of today CLZ 0.34)

      Jul 24, 2011 24:29 AM

      Good morning Cezar,

      I have asked Jordan to respond to your question.

      Best,

      Big Al

      Jul 24, 2011 24:00 AM

      Cezar,

      Im referring to global equity markets when I talk about a mild correction or bear market.

      For precious metals and parabolic moves, I am looking for an acceleration until 2014, major correction, then final parabolic move 2015-2017

        Jul 26, 2011 26:46 AM

        Jordan and Al, thanks a lot for the replies. Jordan, we’re seeing the silver already happening, I’m very excited, and now we’ll just watch it …

      Jul 24, 2011 24:57 AM

      Re: Canasil.
      The good news: Major shareholders. Brahmin Yamini, Alvin Jackson, have recently bought shares. Yamini bought 5000 shares in the open market @0.25 and 0.26.
      Jackson bought them privately 100,000 shares at an undisclosed price. My guess, and it is purely a guess, from insider Arthur Freeze.
      Further good news. Canasil raised $2 million in March when shares were at $0.50, with a bonus of a half warrant.
      The dodgy news is that when Canasil raises money it appears to use non-brokered deals with insiders.
      The bad news is that Canasil appears to be run by management that is naive concerning US markets, in that it has two listings in the greys and none in the pinks.
      The good news is that if you read their latest announcement (June 6,2011) they have pretty good mineralizations. (The bad news is that their announcement appeared to be written by an amateur in that I believe you need to put something more dramatic in the headline:
      e.g. Headline was “Canasil drilling intersects both high-grade and disseminated mineralization in three veins at Sandra-Escobar project in Durango State.
      The headline should have included amounts of Ag and Au…..
      e.g. ” Canasil hits 2.58 g/t gold and 429 g/t silver plus signicant amounts of Cu, Pb and Zn in Durango state exploration drilling. The body of the announcement was fine, but in the mining game you need to get interested parties to read the announcement if it is that good.
      There was a sell signal march 7, 2011, but there have been a number of buy signals recently; weak buy signals (May 25 and June5, and a strong buy signal June 13.

        Jul 25, 2011 25:55 AM

        Hi David,

        I am invested in Canasil for a couple of reasons. First of all, Bahmin is a good guy who is very well educated. Secondly, Peter McGaw is involved and I have nothing but time for Peter.

        I will do a Daily Show on Canasil today, Monday.

        Best,

        Big Al

        Jul 26, 2011 26:56 AM

        Yeah David. We’ll have a few good months in Cansil…

    Jul 24, 2011 24:56 AM

    Hi Al,
    Interesting energy segment about fracking. Leave it to the job killing EPA to try to stop fracking. Here is an interesting article about the wasteful government spending and one of the reasons why I say NO to tax increases. http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/most-outrageous-government-waste/

      Jul 24, 2011 24:31 AM

      Thanks Karen,

      I will read it.

      Always appreciate your comments,

      Big Al

      Jul 24, 2011 24:02 AM

      Not just in the US. There is a lot of gas and oil in the Paris Basin in Europe and France banned Fracing.

    Jul 24, 2011 24:13 AM

    Concerning your first interview with Peter Grandich in responding to a recent listener coment on Christianity vs Capitalism I must comment: May I remind everyone that the Capitalist and the Clergyman where first in line in aiding the corruption of are freedom. To gain faster access to taxation the government weakend our resolve to resist our income from be taken from our paychecks by going to the capitalist and churchman with” bribes through exemption”. Only one true Capitalist in 1943 fought the good fight a Connecticut manufacturer a women named: Vivien Kellems she fought boldly the Constitutionality of the withholding taxes.Churchmen and Capitalist had reasons to support all actions by the government in the way of collecting taxes by law makers proposing laws that would exempt the incomes of institutions ( not opererated for profit) I call it bribes ,of coarse many Corporations through lobbist (another way of bribing) would try anything to avoid paying these taxes including corrupting our freedom both capitalist ,churchmen including Christians. Since WWII has been over for 60 years neither capitalist or churchmen has met with government to stop any form of this intrusion on are freedom!

    Jul 24, 2011 24:36 AM

    Good Morning Joseph,

    Of course, your point is well taken.

    I was trying to make an entirely different point and that was, to call good Christians, good Jews, etc. bad people because they are PURE capitalists (definitely not what I call PREDATORY capitalists) is wrong.

    Your point about the “bribes” is interesting.

    Thank you,

    Big Al

    Jul 24, 2011 24:41 PM

    Hi Big Al and Pete,
    Appreciate your courage in tackling this oft misunderstood and controversial topic of Christian conduct as it relates to Capitalism. I agree with you and Pete. Let me just add my two cents.
    The Bible never says anywhere that making a profit is wrong. Profit is your just reward or remuneration, that is rightfully due the operator who makes available products, goods, or services in a way that warrants the profit. Capitalism, as an “economic mechanism” is Biblical. However, people, both good and bad, can use this mechanism, either fairly or abusively. The mechanism is neither bad nor good, it’s how it’s used that makes it bad or good. Money is neither bad nor good, it’s just a tool of economics. It’s how it’s used and our attitude towards it that makes it wrong or not. It’s the “love” of money that is the root of all evil, not money itself. Money, houses, cars, boats, status, position, etc… are either just tools or they are idols. It’s the way that we view and treat them, that makes them good or wrong. Anything that we place before God and His values is an idol, but when viewed and put in it’s proper place, these things are just tools.
    Thanks again,
    Best to you all!

    Jul 24, 2011 24:28 PM

    Big Al and Pete,
    Just for clarification. My points above deal with arguments that people have thrown at me over the years. I’m not insinuating that you or Pete alluded to any of these positions or that you hold any of these beliefs. Just attempting to add to the discussion and make, what I believe, are some relevant points to the broader discussion.
    Thanks again,

      Jul 25, 2011 25:58 AM

      Good morning Castanheiro,

      Many thanks for your comments. For the record, I want you to know that I completely agree with you. It really is all about intent isn’t it?

      Best,

      Big Al

    Jul 25, 2011 25:08 AM

    I feel the prices of PM stocks in USA markets will never move in line with the price of Physical metal since the world has lost faith in the so called First World Countries(FWC) and their markets including the USA the effect of that can be seen in other markets also. Secondly FWCs are not the main consumers of PM China And India are and they are used to Physical Metal Only. So I think it best to increase the allocation to Physical

      Jul 25, 2011 25:00 AM

      Good Morning Wealthcreator,

      Your point is well taken. I still am somewhat puzzled because the precious metals have to come from somewhere and the companies are that somewhere.

      Thanks for the comments,

      Big Al

    Tex
    Jul 25, 2011 25:15 AM

    I would like to thank Trader Rog for his honestly delivered insights. The benefits of precious metals and equities in an inflationary environment is clear; however in a deflationary state the benefits are less clear. Would you be so kind as to comment on how precious metals and equities would be protective in a deflationary environment in a future show (given that there are $600 trillion in derivatives out there)?

    thanks

      Jul 25, 2011 25:02 AM

      Good Morning Tex,

      I will see if we can handle this issue on today’s Daily Editorial with Rog. If not today, then soon.

      Best,

      Big Al

      Dec 13, 2011 13:59 AM

      This inigsht’s just the way to kick life into this debate.

    Jul 25, 2011 25:38 AM

    When you folks visit a sight, such as Premium Exploration in Idaho, is that a closed tour? I also own this stock and hiked this area, as a teen ager. Is it possible for some hick like me to be able to arrange a tour and/or visit the site the same time your check it out?

      Jul 25, 2011 25:25 PM

      Hi Dick,

      Of course you are welcome to attend.

      If you want to join us call me at 360-606-1874 or reply to this posting with a number where I can call you.

      Best,

      Al

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    Jul 25, 2011 25:45 PM

    Re: Meadow Bay Gold Corporation (MAY) As of July 24th, 2011
    Filing Date Transaction Date Insider Name Ownership Type Securities Nature of transaction # or value acquired or disposed of Unit Price
    May 05/11 Mar 15/11 Kennedy, Thomas John Direct Ownership Options 50 – Grant of options 60,000 $1.240
    Mar 22/11 Mar 15/11 Reed, Charles William Direct Ownership Options 50 – Grant of options 100,000 $1.240
    Mar 22/11 Jan 27/11 Reed, Charles William Direct Ownership Options 50 – Grant of options 100,000 $1.160
    Mar 22/11 Mar 02/11 Reed, Charles William Direct Ownership Options 00 – Opening Balance-Initial SEDI Report
    Mar 19/11 Feb 10/10 Fields, Terry Robert Direct Ownership Options 97 – Other -75,000 $0.100
    Mar 19/11 Jan 27/11 Fields, Terry Robert Direct Ownership Options 50 – Grant of options 50,000 $1.160
    Mar 19/11 Jan 11/11 Fields, Terry Robert Direct Ownership Options 50 – Grant of options 10,000 $0.150
    Mar 19/11 Feb 10/10 Fields, Terry Robert Direct Ownership Common Shares 97 – Other -200,000
    Mar 15/11 Mar 11/11 Estra, Jordan Direct Ownership Options 50 – Grant of options 200,000 $1.200
    Mar 15/11 Mar 11/11 Estra, Jordan Direct Ownership Options 00 – Opening Balance-Initial SEDI Report
    A lot of options granted!

      Jul 25, 2011 25:40 PM

      Those are not my options. I’ve not been granted any options. Again, the company has no warrants and 3.6M options, 39M shares outstanding. I believe it is just management who owns the options. I was told 30% of the company is owned by management and insiders. I’ll double check on that.

    Jul 25, 2011 25:28 PM

    Yep, David. I see a bit over 700,000. I also don’t see much in the way of direct ownership.

    Kind of interesting.

    Big Al