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    Nov 08, 2014 08:24 AM

    Thanks guys as always for a v.informative show. First three segs on the election results mean little to such as Craig Roberts who says that until the neo-cons are ousted from either side nothing will change. Your electorate like ours here in the UK needs to wake up and wake up pdq. On the other hand Adam Hamilton believes that the massive Republican victory spells not a euphoric rise in stock prices but the precise opposite.

    http://news.goldseek.com/Zealllc/1415379600.php

      Nov 08, 2014 08:28 AM

      They’ve been predicting a major crash in the stockmarket for several years over at Zealllc have they not?

      Also wouldn’t gold stocks go down with all other stocks in such a massive crash? We saw an example of that this past October when gold and silver PM stocks when down along with everything else.

        Nov 08, 2014 08:56 AM

        Bob – can’t fault Zeal’s predictions other than their being premature!

        Nov 08, 2014 08:46 AM

        Morning Bob,

        I would lime to think that the resource sector is a bit unique. Is my head in the sand? Maybe, but I am who I am and I can live with that!

      ditto……..on the first three segs……………….j

        boomers better wake up before 2016

          Nov 08, 2014 08:40 AM

          Kind of too late to wake up now. There is no solution. With this level debt, social problem and highly distorted economy, people have to accept a severe drop of living standard for a generation to restore the old prosperity. Hard for people to make that kind of decision. I think the modern economic theory is the root of the problem.

            Lawrence…..it is never too late……….There is a solution,….it is call an AWAKENING.
            Once, you know what is wrong, stop talking about it, and do something about…..DEBT IS SLAVERY………personal and governmental . And since, I was talking about the TWO HEADED SNAKE, which has gotten us into this mess……Knowing just that should be a WAKE UP CALL….You are either a lender or borrower, slave or free, ..and since the govt is now over 50% of the problem, it would be a good time to reverse this problem.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:50 AM

            Lawrence, I have to agree completely with Jerry. That is also what Congressman Jones said!

            Nov 08, 2014 08:32 AM

            I don’t think people will accept a lower stand of living. They will panic, angry and throw out old politicians and get new worse ones. However politicians are the facilitators and people love to live beyond their means. Economic theory has to change. We should rely more on creating wealth instead of creating illusions.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:56 PM

            Great comment, Lawrence!

            Lawrence………wake up……they are going to have a lower standard of living anyway

            Lawrence….People like to pretend……..until they can no longer pretend,…. when the repo man shows up or the landlord boots them onto the street……………

            Nov 08, 2014 08:41 PM

            Agree. but regardless what, reality will set in. But I find people, regardless where they live, cannot take a decisive action without clear leadership. This leadership is missing in both US and Europe. I feel Ron Paul’s approach has to be implemented, slowly, so US has to swallow its price and contracts to focus on its own business and takes the country back to its root. Otherwise it will hurt everyone in the world.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:41 PM

            pride not price, sorry.

            PRIDE COMETH BEFORE THE FALL……….

            bj
            Nov 08, 2014 08:02 PM

            I think we reached critical mass (both nationally and internationally) over a decade ago, and now what we’re seeing is the acceleration of social, political, fiscal and monetary malfeasance on a global never before experienced in human history. How long can it go on? It’s hard to say other than we are literally living on BORROWED time–and the debts are overwhelming.

            Those who think things are going to get better with the Rs now controlling the House and Senate forget that Bush’s ‘recovery’ was a jobless recovery and his undeclared war in Iraq started on false pretenses which was of great cost to America in every way but delivered no strategic benefit in any way. It was because of that, that Obama was elected. In short Americans were so offended at being hoodwinked that they threw out the Rs in the White House Senate and House because the Ds promised “Change we can believe in”. I suppose what some were hoping for was that the Ds would undo what the Rs did, but instead they let all that slide and gave us ObamaCare. Now the Rs are offering us “change’ yet again!

            So let me predict the same thing about the Rs that I predicted about Obama’s during his first run for president: Nothing will be undone, and nothing good will happen to improve the lot of everyday Americans who work hard and play by the rules–because the only rules these charlatans play by are K-Street’s rules notwithstanding the public persona of elected government.

            BTW, clearly Rand Paul is not Ron Paul. Those who pay attention are witnessing easily political ambition eclipses one’s so-called core values.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:14 PM

            Great comment bj!

            Not sure that I would agree about Rand quite yet though!

            Nov 09, 2014 09:13 AM

            As of 1980 to this day, I already did accept a lower living standard at the hand of market prices and manipulation and fraud. At age 20 to 54 I had to put my life on hold because of low pay and financial crime in the investment markets not to mention real estate hyper inflation. When it comes to making a sacrifice I have done my part. Where is my reward? Stolen by Jews and their fans for? In the name of God and Jesus Christ, never again!
            In my view it is not time for more sacrifice on my part, it is time for justice to be done one way or another. It is time for the criminals who rip off investors, rig markets, real estate profiteers, crooked and El cheapo bosses and all their fans for and protectors to be sacrificed.

            Nov 09, 2014 09:13 AM

            “people have to accept a severe drop of living standard for a generation to restore the old prosperity”

            I would disagree. We just need a new industry to push us into a new productive phase. Similar to how the personal computer and internet created a productive phase.

            Plastics and electronics did the same thing in the 50-60’s.

            The automobile and mass production in the 20’s

            I would agree with most of what bj has said…………..MY thoughts again……THE TWO HEADED SNAKE, Which is the DEMOCRATE/REBUBLICAN……can not deliver us from anything…………A TOTAL CHANGE MUST OCCUR………..and RAND IS NO RON….a THIRD PARTY IS NEEDED…, or the next second party , because the so called two parties we think we have ……….are the ONE snake with TWO HEADS……..

          Nov 08, 2014 08:48 AM

          Oh yea Jerry, a lot of people better wake up!

            bj
            Nov 08, 2014 08:06 PM

            Al, commenting to reply here because I can’t directly below it.
            Rand Paul endorsed Mitch McConnell in the primary. McConnell is the antithesis of honest government and responsible spending, and personal freedom and privacy and individual responsibility..

            As they say, “birds of a feather…”

            Hope he gets a good chairmanship out of it cause because it will take a lot of soap to wash his hands of his McConnell endorsement.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:17 PM

            Thank you bj!

            Nov 09, 2014 09:17 PM

            Yes rand Paul is no Ron Paul, I supported and voted for Ron twice, only to see him roll over a try to join the establishment GOP. Then hushed up bolster Rand

        Nov 08, 2014 08:47 AM

        Three ditto at least, Jerry!””

      Nov 08, 2014 08:42 AM

      Morning Andrew,

      Don’t know about the stock market, but I certainly have an opinion. It is overpriced and not free market. Where is it going? Ask the puppeteers!

      Neocons? I completely agree with Congressman Jones. Sometimes it is embarrassing to be well known as a conservative!

        Nov 09, 2014 09:31 AM

        Al once upon a time I was a conservative and then I found that conservative was a code word for communist, liberal, spendaholic and politically correct criminal. Everything to the left of the conservatives is just more honest about the same problems they share with the conservatives. I am interested in what is good for me and my race AKA white people. That puts me near or in the white nationalist camp which is out side of the known political spectrum.

          Nov 09, 2014 09:34 AM

          Only color based politics I am still hearing is for black people. I assume it is because that they are weak economically and politically. It is odd for me to think some movement can represent a whole race since race is not a organized group. You can see that the conflict among same race is probably more intense than among different races, e.g. USSR vs Germany, same with China vs Japan. On a bigger trend, the world is mixing all together. A thousand year from now, there may be no way to tell who is what race. I don’t know what you can do with white nationalist except staying as an idea. It would be better to do something for your country or your family.

        Nov 09, 2014 09:20 PM

        Open your eyes Al, the world’s money is going into us equities. NOT PM’S liked we all hoped, the market has a lot of room to inflate further. Don’t be blinded.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:41 AM

    Chris Martenson as sound as a pound (of gold) as always. This am on Farming Today they were speaking of the scourge that is Japanese knot-weed. It was introduced from Japan to the UK in 1825 as an ornamental plant. Today the thing is playing havoc in many British gardens and homes, being able to grow through concrete as well as being incredibly difficult to eradicate completely. Tiny spores can spread in the wind or float down stream (riverbanks being a place where knotweed is often found) to reap their mischief elsewhere. Perhaps a comparison can be made to the suicidal Japanese economy. Before long everything and everyone will come to experience the knotweed effect.
    For all those naysayers who’ve been crowing over gold’s further correction of late, Don Oliver (reminds us (as though we need reminding) that the dollar’s in a bubble, while gold alone remains a stable reference of Value.

      Nov 08, 2014 08:52 AM

      Dan Oliver, Andrew, and yes he certainly does! He is a very bright guy!

    Nov 08, 2014 08:06 AM

    I am going to do a free conference call tomorrow morning for anyone who would like to learn a little bit about cycles and my views of where I think things are headed. I’ll post the details to my blog a little later today.

    http://blog.smartmoneytrackerpremium.com/

    Nov 08, 2014 08:29 AM

    Thanks guys. Interesting bit from silverdoctors here too. http://www.silverdoctors.com/

    Nov 08, 2014 08:45 AM

    It can’t be because I suggested they go all the way and drop silver to a quarter per ounce which was the low price in the 1930s.

    No more time for REPUBLICAN Bull………..all the same……get some tea party people in the news stream……..NEED SOME BULL MOOSE………or HornY OWL PARTY.

      Nov 08, 2014 08:54 AM

      Certainly need some real common sense, Jerry!

      I am getting very tired of power hungry politicians.

      the article is good up to a point…………”.bullish LONG TERM”…he quotes,
      I am not sure I(totally) agree with him on the HUNT BROTHER’S situation……, but, a good read………………….thanks……………………………….j……THE LONG….

        BTW…..did you get my note on franky’s post of the 8 part series from Barnhart….?

          Nov 08, 2014 08:22 AM

          No, there are many posters on this blog that I just don’t have time for.

            I AGREE 100%…….but, you might want to watch the video…….concerning the derivatives……….since, it all ties together.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:55 AM

            Bobby,

            Some of Franky’ s posts are pretty good!

    Nov 08, 2014 08:23 AM

    I wrote Marty off in his first paragraph-the markets are free n fair.
    Marty must be threatened with isolation in the hole with that drivel.

      Nov 08, 2014 08:51 AM

      Armstrong should have named that article- Every market is manipulated except the precious metals.

      The $9 Billion Witness: Meet JPMorgan Chase’s Worst Nightmare
      Posted on November 7, 2014 by Martin Armstrong
      The manipulation of markets and government by the money-center banks has been off-the-hook. Matt Taibbi‘s November 6, 2014 article is worth the read. I have been fighting for free markets for decades. The truth cannot remain hidden for much longer. http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/11/07/the-9-billion-witness-meet-jpmorgan-chases-worst-nightmare/

        Nov 09, 2014 09:46 AM

        Listening to Armstrong is not easy especially you like logical thinking. I definitely think he knows more than he can talk about. It is better to keep his prediction in mind and make sure if his predictions come true, you can prosper, at least not wiped out. There is an interview by Vancouver based Howestreet.com I feel very enlightening, unfortunately, he avoided answering question about gold. One reason for gold declines he was hinting is the dollar strengthen due to carry trade from Japan and Europe. Unfortunately I fail to agree since on the balance side, you shoul see gold rises on the other side of carry trade, i.e. in Yen and Euro, which has not happened. Well, nothing is perfect.

        http://talkdigitalnetwork.com/2014/09/this-week-in-money-155/

        Nov 10, 2014 10:25 AM

        The Financial Times is reporting that UBS has agreed to settle charges against it by the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority that it engaged in the manipulation of the gold and silver markets. While it may come as a surprise to chart wranglers like Trader Dan or interminably hot air windbags like Dennis Gartman and Martin Armstrong that gold and silver are manipulated by the big bullion banks, UBS has de facto admitted to such illegal activity.
        This comes on the heels of a £1.5 billion pound ($2.4 billion) settlement agreement (to be announced Wednesday) that includes UBS, Barclays, Citigroup, HSBC, JP Morgan and RBS connected to charges of foreign exchange market rigging.
        If these banks are rigging forex trading, it means that they are de facto rigging gold and silver.
        I’m wondering if part of the $40 move higher in gold on Friday was driven by insiders – i.e. the banks – who knew that the UBS gold/silver manipulation settlement deal was going to be announced by the FT today (Sunday, November 9).

    Nov 08, 2014 08:17 AM

    Where’s Bo?

      Nov 08, 2014 08:54 AM

      Not sure where Bo is but maybe he called the big move yesterday:)

        Nov 08, 2014 08:57 AM

        A lot of people called it. He has been calling it for an awful long time now and that’s okay.

          Nov 08, 2014 08:31 PM

          One day does not a trend make.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:12 PM

            Absolutely correct, Bobby.

            That is exactly what Doc said! And I do happen to agree. This could be a bottom, but let’s see.

      Nov 08, 2014 08:29 AM

      Bo diddly.

      So will anyone else if they keep listening to these predictions.

      Nov 08, 2014 08:33 AM

      Bo has sold all his gold and NUGT he bought on margin and buying Tesla as it looks so cheap and has bottomed.. Remember when he was asked how he knew the bottom was in. His reply was ” I just know” and he acted weird. The long term charts for gold show gold bottoms in the 800 to 1000 area.

        Nov 08, 2014 08:57 PM

        I really don’t have any comments about Bo!

    Nov 08, 2014 08:36 AM

    Thst article is complete bs
    He must selling his own brand of bs

    Nov 08, 2014 08:24 AM

    Big Al, did you buy more silver yet? How much are you going to buy? Are you going to buy rounds, coins or bars?

    I still think you give us three days notice. After all, you and Cory are more powerful than the Hunt brothers.

    Silver up 33 cents yesterday. Did Big Al buy the day before? Or is it up because people know Big Al is going to buy?

      Nov 08, 2014 08:59 AM

      Not yet Ebolan.

      Probably this week and I usually buy rounds.

        Nov 08, 2014 08:34 PM

        How many and from where?

    SEG 5……….RENEWABLE ENERGY………..will never be a money maker till BIG OIL IS OUT OF THE PICTURE………….

      Nov 08, 2014 08:42 AM

      How are things in Florida?

        Not in Florida……..until it gets colder………….I am watching the leave turn, and plan on chasing the turkeys off the table………but, thanks for asking………..

          Nov 09, 2014 09:26 PM

          J….THE LONG…. how much colder do you want? Been in the 60’s at night..to frikin cold to be on the pontoon…..need the high 80’s back….anyway..get your arse back to Florida in time for the Fl.State game…..support the Gators……Best to you and family.

            Gator………thanks for the reply……hope everything is ok in gatorland. UofF. is going to eat their lunch in the swamp. Best to you and yours………..j……………

    Nov 08, 2014 08:41 AM

    Obammie just nominated Al Sharpton for AG

    http://rense.com/1.imagesH/sharptondragsplash.jpg

    Nov 08, 2014 08:45 AM

    Heard Obammie had the new prices for Obammie care withheld until after the election.

    Look for amnesty for all the illegals and cap-n-trade by executive order soon.

    Then in 2016 look for the Demoncrats nominating Shillary and the Republowcons nominating Jebby Bush.

    And the national debt is now 18 trillion? What will it be in 2016? Prolly over 20 trillion. And of course that’s a fraction of the unfunded liabilities.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:55 AM

    Is segment 7 a repeat?

      Nov 08, 2014 08:01 AM

      That would truly be thd straw that breaks the camel’s back!

        Nov 08, 2014 08:02 AM

        Of course I mean THE

      Nov 08, 2014 08:02 AM

      Shouldn’t’ t be!

        Nov 08, 2014 08:08 AM

        Thought I heard it on Friday.

          Nov 08, 2014 08:55 PM

          You did, we posted it early for the “family”.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:34 AM

    GOLD MARKET ALERT!!!
    Suspect move!!!
    After Market Quote GLD: 277.174 shares at 113.06
    After Market Quote GDX: 17.175.439 shares at 18.64
    After Market Quote GDXJ: 8.203.076 shares at 26.04

    Nov 08, 2014 08:47 AM

    All peoples that make a living trading paper financial assets better start looking for future employment opportunities:http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2014/11/9_Dr._Paul_Craig_Roberts_files/Dr.%20Paul%20Craig%20Roberts%2011%3A8%3A2014.mp3

    Nov 08, 2014 08:50 AM

    Yes,…its KWN..but if you are a PHD in economics and you have any of your mind solidly in REALTIY AND YOU ARE NOT ON THE TAKE..:)…..I might just llistened to you for an alternaitve rational of thinking that Dr. Roberts.

      SD………..EVERYONE BETTER GET A handle on ……..DTCC AND CEDE company……..these are where the assets and all stock certificates land, if you do not have them in your personal possession ………….

    Nov 08, 2014 08:52 AM

    LISTEN…LEARN…UNDERSTAND AND PREPARE…..IF NOT -YOU WILL BE CONVENIENTLY THROWN OFF A CLIFF BY GREEDY UNSCRUPTULOUS PEOPLE….. YOU ARE DULY WARNED…..AGAIN…:)

    Nov 08, 2014 08:26 AM

    I just listened to the first hour segment. I found it quite amusing.

    Mr. Jones, I have some questions.

    1. Are you aware that the constitution you swear to uphold is the constitution of the corporation ? The act of 1871 changed the constitution ” for ” the people to the constitution ” of ” the people, which created the corporation. You are a corporate officer, Sir.

    2. The executive orders are given to you corporate officers to adhere by. Obama is your boss. He is UN-impeachable by you and the defacto government that you are in.

    3. All this talk about democracy is stupid. This great nation was designed to be a republic. History prooves over again and again that the life span of a democracy is only 75 years. We are controlled by an alogarchy.

    If you want to help our county and be a statesman , do this:
    (A) repeal the act of 1871
    (B) get rid of the BAR attorney’s , judges and courts. BAR- British admiralty rule.
    Go back to common law
    (C) go back to the gold standard and stop suckin the hind titt of America. We’ve been debt slaves to the Ponzi scheme long enough.

    Wish I could have done the interview and would certainly like your thoughts on these issues.

    Regards

      this is what I Call being …..AWARE………., thanks for the post…………j……..

      bb
      Nov 08, 2014 08:12 PM

      Excellent points chartster.
      I have always thought it interesting the republic tries so hard to promote democracy.

      I have to agree with George Carlin, voting only makes a person responsible for the criminal acts, not voting says you disapprove of them.

        Nov 08, 2014 08:01 PM

        I’m voting for Jesse Ventura and judge Napolitano in 2016. I hope they run as independents it’s the only hope this country has got. The Clinton/Bush crap has got to go!

          Nov 08, 2014 08:51 PM

          Your kidding, right!

            Nov 08, 2014 08:13 PM

            I’m all ears if you got someone better

            Nov 08, 2014 08:14 PM

            You never know Bobby!

          bb
          Nov 08, 2014 08:52 PM

          Jesse Ventura looks good, I don’t know Napolitano.

          Situation is, I think, is the guys that run things are unelected.
          I don’t really believe it matters much who they allow to be president.
          The lesser officials have even less influence.

          Its a fascist police state, pretty embedded now.

            Nov 08, 2014 08:00 PM

            I agree, we need to insist going back to paper ballots. With electronic voting, ” it’s not who votes , it’s who counts the votes “

            Nov 08, 2014 08:22 PM

            Seems to be that way!

            Nov 08, 2014 08:21 PM

            Thanks Bb I was pretty impressed with the Judge when I met him in Dr Paul’s ofice a number of years ago

            Nov 09, 2014 09:30 PM

            bb…..jessee ventura ????…guys a freakin nut case…..just keeps getting more wierd with each interview…..

          Nov 09, 2014 09:40 AM

          I just cannot agree with ventures views on religion and the church

            bb
            Nov 09, 2014 09:14 AM

            Bobby, I don’t know Venturas view on religion and church.
            But he does ask questions publicly about Vietnam etc.
            I don’t think he gets as much exposer as Ron Paul did, so he is pretty much ignored as far as I can tell.

            I cant see his views on anything mattering much, but at least he is not already bought and paid for. At least I don’t hink he is but really, how would I know?

            Nov 09, 2014 09:22 AM

            It really does not matter what the people think, as twain said, if voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it. Its already been decided so all we can do is wait and see who it will be.!

          Nov 09, 2014 09:00 PM

          You nailed it, Chartster. Expect every Obama supporter/Marxist/Neocon/Fascist to say “your” kidding. To say they’re all clueless (or worse) is axiomatic.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:28 PM

    Obama care is a first step towards a real single payer national health plan. Its imperfect but a clumsy early step. All the other big countrys have a national health plan and we will too. I never liked the current legislation, buts its a start. congress wont be able to repeal it over a veto of Obama. love to all S

      Nov 09, 2014 09:23 AM

      Exactly correct

    Nov 08, 2014 08:28 PM

    Gold’s price action looks decent on the weekly chart.
    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD&p=W&yr=5&mn=3&dy=0&id=p04191648784&a=375393141

    Nov 08, 2014 08:41 PM

    I’m sure everyone here knows about the sardines, seals and Sharks.

    Think about it regarding yesterday’s gold move.

    Maybe the light will go off in your head

    Nov 08, 2014 08:56 PM

    I think the bottom of gold is going to be in within a week or two. Thank God, cause if it keeps going, I’m going to develop a condition.
    P.T.G.B.S.D. ( Post Traumatic Gold Bottom Stress Disorder )

      Nov 08, 2014 08:30 PM

      I’ve heard a strong shot of bourbon can help you of you’re suffering from PTGBSD.

        Nov 08, 2014 08:11 PM

        Only if it is really good bourbon Chris!

    Nov 08, 2014 08:41 PM

    Excellent advice!! TY Dr. Chris

    Nov 08, 2014 08:41 PM

    Keep calling those bottoms, boys….someday within the next 10 years, you will be right. No bottom until there permà-bulls puke. Meanwhile keep buying till you are broke.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:53 PM

    It will be very evident to all when the mega wash and then the mega bounce happens. No mistaking this bottom. It’s coming real soon too. You’ll see

      Nov 08, 2014 08:05 PM

      Out of curiosity, Chartster, what area do you think it’s going to bottom? If we’re talking about a big washout, I suppose it’s going under $1000.

        Nov 08, 2014 08:04 PM

        Maybe 650.

          Nov 08, 2014 08:10 PM

          567

            Nov 08, 2014 08:47 PM

            Anything is possible
            A final drop / flush out will not happen in the next weeks though imo.
            To knock the miners and gold bulls into total submission needs a longer drawn out slow death….6? 9? 12 months?
            That should do it….it may well take that long.
            The next 12 months will be very interesting, at least on my eyes.
            Lets see how this pans out.

            Nov 09, 2014 09:28 AM

            I think you are correct, sketta

    Nov 08, 2014 08:06 PM

    I think between 5 and 600. Don’t laugh, it’s coming…

      Nov 08, 2014 08:09 PM

      Do you think a stock market crash is going to happen as well?

        Nov 08, 2014 08:54 PM

        Not until we double from here.

          Nov 08, 2014 08:50 PM

          Not sure about double?
          I’d give it at a minimum another 30% though Bobby.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:09 PM

    Pretty nice head fake on Friday too

      Nov 08, 2014 08:06 PM

      Notice how the calls of gold manipulation went completely silent as gold climbed in price ???
      Why is that ?
      LOL.

        Nov 09, 2014 09:00 AM

        not true. Manipulation will not stop because there is one day rise in so many days. Wait for more manipulation or intervention as government call it.

        Nov 09, 2014 09:01 AM

        Don’t laugh too early.

          Nov 09, 2014 09:49 AM

          So then Lawrence, educate me.
          If gold sporadically plummets nearly 40 bucks for no apparent reason its all about manipulation then ???
          But…
          If gold sporadically rises nearly 40 bucks for no apparent reason then its not about manipulation then ???

          Sorry, but I can only shake my head in disbelief at people who both believe & invest in that theory.

            Nov 09, 2014 09:56 AM

            You cannot have it both ways mate.

            Nov 09, 2014 09:45 AM

            You could run a little psych 101 study: Take several graphs, both up-trending and down-trending. Then flip them vertically and adjust the Y-axis (price) but not Time or Volume. Ask people to look at a chart and rate the probability that there was manipulation.

            Nov 09, 2014 09:54 AM

            Very possible both are manipulation but you don’t have to believe in anything. Not all up and downs have to be manipulation either. Even manipulated down trend can have rallies. I admire some people’s courage that they think gold fall due to market trend and still hold gold. I can fight manipulated down trends but but not natural ones since manipulation can work in short term only and natural down trend may stay there for a long time. If gold should go down when central banks hyperinflate their currency, by all means short gold. However, you look back at history or you use your common sense, when you print a lot of something, its value goes down. It is a natural rule. There is a lot of evidence that BIS/FED has increased gold supply (paper and real) to dilute gold. It is a participant who should not be in the market and not for profit. It is to benefit governments not the people. We people should try to protect ourselves. Otherwise you cannot complain when you find out your hard earned mony all gone one day. If you were in Zimbabwe and Weimer, you would be glad that you owned gold. You look at the long term gold chart, it has increased from $35 to over $1000. At sametime, the money supply also increased with similar multiples, it is not by accident.

            Nov 10, 2014 10:00 AM

            Lawrence,
            I’m sorry, but how the World views the $US is a world away from how they viewed currency in Zimbabwe or the Weimer republic.
            The sooner you realise this…..the sooner you’ll make more money.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:15 PM

    Maybe a pullback 10% , or maybe a blastoff. That’s a tuffy right now. Certainly not a crash. It all should start this coming week. Very pumped for the move!

    Nov 08, 2014 08:17 PM

    This move coming should have been last week according to the cycle. Can’t quite understand what the pause was.

    Nov 08, 2014 08:46 PM
      Nov 08, 2014 08:18 PM

      Thanks, Savage is pretty highly thought of.

      Nov 09, 2014 09:35 AM

      Rev, if they do vote for Independence, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see major unrest in Spain. The Spanish government has already stated that the vote is unconstitutional.

    Nov 09, 2014 09:32 AM
    Nov 09, 2014 09:29 AM

    China will be the new powerhouse. Very evident.

    Nov 09, 2014 09:34 AM

    Regarding gold,

    I really would like to see a maximum retrace of 1200/1220 no more. If she rallys to 1275 then it going to get interesting.

    So many people with calls from 1137,1080,1050,1000,967,500-600, etc etc…The true fact of the matter is no one knows the number period. Unless your an insider forget it. The volatility is what’s going to be difficult to handle. Still have wti going lower 35/40.. Still have and want to see 78/80 gold ratio and still want to see a break 1100 gold. We shall see.

    Nov 09, 2014 09:43 AM

    It’s no wonder why Americans know nothing about what’s going on with the rest of the world regarding the U.S. Our media keeps us in a bubble. Our leaders are loosing massive deals to other countries. They have completely taken their eye off the ball. It looks like the rest of the world is forcing the gold standard and the U.S. Is fighting it tooth and nail. I’ve never seen the BRICS mentioned 1 time on the main stream news! Not Once!

    I think it’s time to kick the main stream news owners out of this country and get back to educating the people of what is really happening. Our country leaders and media are selling this country out! It’s appalling , dispicible and down right disgusting!

      Nov 09, 2014 09:07 AM

      But, but, but thinking is too hard. That is why we have the government and media to think for us. Now back to football, dancing with the stars, and the Kardashians.

        Nov 09, 2014 09:29 AM

        Do as the Romans did, right? ( fall..)

      bb
      Nov 09, 2014 09:40 PM

      Chartser, thought the banks bought the media long ago, something about Jekyl Island?
      I remember reading about when they realised the cost of owning all the news was cheap to them.

        Nov 09, 2014 09:43 PM

        True , but the sheep dog still has to protect the sheep…

    Nov 09, 2014 09:54 AM

    Glen, WTI. At 35-40 would be sweet. I think it’s coming too. Bye bye fracker..

    Nov 09, 2014 09:21 PM

    good show !! particularly segment 8

    Nov 09, 2014 09:37 PM

    Clearly sardines, seals and sharks.

    Straight down off the open

    Nov 10, 2014 10:16 AM

    New Gold to acquire bayfield ventures !