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    Dec 06, 2014 06:49 AM

    Well, I am back (I think). It has been 37 days in the telecommunications wilderness and I was completely cut off from the outside world. They say the connection issue has finally been fixed but we shall see. So hello to all again and to Al and Cory and my friends out there. Sorry but I have been unable to post any comments for more than a month. And there are a lot of posts to catch up on! I am pretty irritated I missed that 15.00 dollar bottom in silver. Shoot!! I suspect I will get another shot at it though as the declines have not yet ended. Until later……if my connection holds up this month. I will probably be back again soon.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:11 AM

      Welcome back…Bird…I hope you & the family are well.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:22 AM

      Hi Bird,

      Good to see you back :)…Always nice for you to come in here and balance things out. Im holding you to lower prices as I personally want to load up on shares. At this point its all about share accumulation and at cheaper prices for me. Kinda like what doc is doing.

      cheers mate

        Dec 06, 2014 06:34 AM

        Cheers guys 🙂

      Dec 06, 2014 06:54 AM

      For sure Bird, WELCOME BACK!

        Dec 06, 2014 06:01 AM

        Always happy to be here Al….best resource show on the web.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:39 PM

          Thanks Bird,

          If nothing else we are honest and try to fully disclose all stock deals for companies we discuss.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:52 AM

    From my perspective, in the UK, I hope the USD goes higher this week and smacks down gold and silver. At which point I will use it as a buying opportunity for, at least, FTSE listed miners and perhaps also some US commodity etfs and a few select tech stocks.

    The Pound has crashed against the USD this year but I think that as soon as the USD turns back down then the commodities go to the moon.

    The problem that non-Americans like myself have are currency rates and currency charges to turn native currency into USD to buy anything in USD. You have to factor in whether the rise in your purchase, for example GDX or GPRO or whatever, will rise enough to cover the currency costs alone… especially if you then expect the USD to eventually turn back down against your own currency such as Sterling, the Euro or whatever.

    I think there are an awful lot of people global waiting for a weaker USD to buy into the commodities. If I was already in USD I probably would be buying and just forgetting about my purchases for 6 months.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:18 AM

      Everybody talks about “this buying opportunity”. Apparently they missed the bus the first time around in 2001-2007, and this government/corporate manipulation is allowing them to make up for past mistakes.

      What about the guy that is retired and needing additional funds? What about the underemployed and unemployed who put their savings into bullion and precious metal mining stocks? Who eschewed equities because they (rightfully) believed they were a bubble, but failed to anticipate a fully-backed government endorsement after 2008? This is the minority who saved and acted according to fundamentals, and is being punished for it ever since the summer of 2011. Everybody still gets to laugh at their “foolishness”.

      Is this the best we can do as individuals? Live off of someone else’s coattails, knowing that government and those in power cannot be fought against? Give in to the corruption, because we need to put food on the dinner table? Join the herd in pushing the Dow Jones to 20,000?

      I’m tired of being part of the “targeted” minority of those who did not put their eternal faith in the US Dollar, with bullion and mining stocks being driven down, and the “targeted” majority who are paying increasing costs and increasing taxes.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:30 AM

        I am one of those – saved, did everything right but didn’t understand the implications of the money-printing, low IRs forever and the aim to prop up the banks and the heavily mortgaged.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:57 AM

        Great comment jhpace1!

        Your third and fourth paragraphs explain exactly why we are diversified!

      Dec 06, 2014 06:56 AM

      I have to agree with you Bob. Not sure about the six month time frame though.

      Dec 08, 2014 08:16 PM

      Great show and great comments from all. Avi’s section was particularly interesting about Investor Sentiment versus Fundamentals and how both trail or lead the markets.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:27 AM

    Welcome back Birdman. Your opinion has been sorely missed.

      Ann
      Dec 06, 2014 06:28 AM

      Birdman, great to have u back online,!!

      Dec 06, 2014 06:23 AM

      +1

        Dec 06, 2014 06:33 AM

        Thanks all! It is great to be back online even if my connection is spotty for the next while. I missed you guys.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:58 AM

          I agree with all of the warm and fuzzy feelings the majority of our “family” are sending in your direction!

            Dec 06, 2014 06:16 PM

            Yes, welcome back Bird.

            Dec 06, 2014 06:28 PM

            Hopefully it last Skeeta. But they are doing so much road building and new construction here lately it seems someone breaks the fibre cable on a weekly basis. This last go-round resulted in a total blackout. They scramble to get the banks and government back online but residential customers are pretty much at the back of the bus. In the meantime the Chinese are here upgrading the entire system to 4G but it is not without some big hiccups along the way. The changeover from antiquated systems to the new networks is murder and it can be dangerous as hell for your trading account if it goes down at the wrong time. On the plus side we should have a brilliant first-world network within about two years time and they are sure laying out the cash bigtime to make it happen come hell or high water.

            I am learning to be patient!!! 😉

            Dec 06, 2014 06:30 PM

            Bird,

            My biggest fear has always been my network going down in the middle of a big trade due to multiple reasons. In your case I guess there was not much you could do but wait. Is there not any system with satellite that you could install out there? I’ve heard of such systems but not sure if worth it or available to you.

            Dec 06, 2014 06:03 PM

            I am looking into it Glen. So far it looks like it is restricted access for business only but more digging might turn up some options. There is satellite services across Africa that are offered by Middle Eastern, European and American outfits but it does not mean you can buy the services everywhere they are in place. Seems to depend on local regulatory approvals and permissions. Good question though. You have gotten me curious so I will look deeper.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:42 AM

    New From Paul Mylchreest

    Longtime Turdites will recall that Paul Mylchreest is an excellent metals analyst. His latest report explores in great detail the ongoing link between the price of gold and the value of the Japanese yen which, as you know, is a theme we’ve already been following here for months. TF

    Long Nikkei/Short Gold

    Has the market completely missed a huge long/short trade which has helped to drive up the Nikkei and drive down the gold price for more than 2 years?

    http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/6425/new-paul-mylchreest

    CFS
    Dec 06, 2014 06:20 AM
      Dec 06, 2014 06:40 AM

      CFS yes it is. This is the first post in the comments section of the article.

      Fantastic post and since everyone here is so adept to spam these days this was published earlier this morning at TFMetals Report and was sent to ZH by a loyal turdite.

      March on Turd’s Army…Keep Stacking.

      http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/6425/new-paul-mylchreest

      The layout of the article at Zerohedge is easier to read.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:09 PM

        I read the whole article and I have one doubt that I cannot get over with… there seems a disconnection…

        Sell gold -> USD (which in 2011 was in the dawn of rising)
        Sell USD -> JPY (in the start of falling)
        Sell JPY -> Nikkei. (expected to rise in Yen term)

        From Zerohedge… Long Nikkei in Yen term is + but in $ term is -4.5%.
        From the gold short seller perspective, the portion of sell USD/long JPY and Nikkei is odd because one is positioning on virtually getting no reward.

        Simply a question… do any of you happen to know a good explanation?

    CFS
    Dec 06, 2014 06:29 AM

    Re: Segment 2:
    I no longer believe any market is free.
    Everything is manipulated by big money – central banks and hedge funds.
    What causes the big money to move the markets may sometimes be sentiment, but it also can be political considerations.

    CFS
    Dec 06, 2014 06:42 AM

    Mr. Gally’s views and approach closely parallel my beliefs and attitudes, so he makes a lot of sense to me.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:46 AM

    Could you post Avi Gilburt’s latest updated charts on Gold and Silver please.

    CFS
    Dec 06, 2014 06:50 AM

    Mr. Downs is correct. The newly elected Republicans are for the most part bought and paid for by big money.
    In my view that makes them political scum. People with no intention of doing what is best for the country, but only interested in doing what is best for themselves.
    I pray for the coming revolution to throw all the bums, democrats and republicans, out.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:01 AM

      I have to agree with all of your comments CFS.

      We must share some wine at some point in the future at The Oakville Grocery in Heilsberg.

        CFS
        Dec 06, 2014 06:08 PM

        I don’t see me back in California for at least 3 months.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:42 PM

          Seriously, keep me posted as we get down there once a year on no particular schedule.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:03 AM

    According to Judge Napolitano, and I’m sure he’s correct, the police should face prosecution for the Garner death due to excessive force being used. Taking a peaceful resistor/man down by the neck is insane as you could easily break his neck. And worse, they did nothing to check him out and revive him after he was totally unresponsive other than to call for EMS who also did next to nothing for Garner. This was extreme incompetence on the part of the police and the EMS, but the cops brought about the death with their police state brutality so they (the whole bunch of them involved in that illegal takedown) should all face charges. It looks like the feds will only indict the chokehold cop though, but the others were accessories to the manslaughter if you ask me as they should’ve stopped the arrest once the chokehold cop locked his arms around Garner’s neck until that idiotic cop released the neck hold.

    http://www.ini-world-report.org/2014/12/04/judge-napolitano-eric-garner-grand-jury-should-have-indicted-nypd-officer-for-excessive-force/

      Dec 06, 2014 06:02 AM

      Bankster Vigilante,

      I completely agree with your comment. I simply cannot understand how or why this rubbish is still walking the streets.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:09 PM

      Police is out of control in US. Everytime I go there I see massive police presence and naturally fearful. There is also report of confiscation of tourists’ money by the police. The violence is not only towards black. An old UK professor was beaten to death by police simply because he J walked. By comparison Canadian police is very professional and Chinese police is far kinder.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:16 AM

    Doc, several respectable technical analysts predict a much higher dollar price next year…what do you say? If the dollar goes much higher can gold go higher with it?
    Thanks

      Dec 06, 2014 06:25 AM

      Sally,

      In 2008/2009 first quarter..Were I think we are currently..The dollar rallied and trended sideways with miners while equities were correcting. So yes they can both decouple from equities

    Dec 06, 2014 06:18 AM

    One of the best weekend shows I have listened to. Very informative. The conclusion im getting is we are few weeks away from a final bottom or at least it seems that way.

    Also may I add that Avi is without a doubt a master at his craft which is elliot wave ta. I gotta tell ya that trying to master elliot wave is not for the faint. It has to be one of the most difficult crafts/art/professions that test your knowledge and skills on all levels. Im not in that category but this guy I believe knows what he is talking about. Not sure of his long term record as I believe he has only been doing this for three years or i maybe wrong?

      LPG
      Dec 06, 2014 06:05 AM

      +1 with Glenfidish re: Avi and that he knows what he’s talking about.

      GL investing to all.

      LPG

        Dec 06, 2014 06:16 AM

        LPG,

        Good luck to you as well 🙂

        Below this post I gave you somewhat of an answer regarding you wanting me to put up a chart from chest treasure. What I wrote is basically coming from charts. Look carefully at the loonie. We have all been focused on yen and euro.. No respect for loonie :(. When loonie bottoms I believe so will miners.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:53 AM

          That is an excellent point you have made about the Canadian dollar, Glen. Just so happens i am also watching it with more interest than usual as it appears to be approaching stiffer support near 85.

          You might already be aware that the Loonie peaked roughly at the same time as Gold in the second half of 2011 and that it has fallen somewhat continuously ever since so there does indeed appear to be a correlation.

          In general, commodities have been in decline across the board all that time. To me the CDN is acting as something of a proxy for the resource sector generally so it bears watching closely in case it does begin to reverse.

          Right now a lot of people are watching gold and the miners with greater interest as in the back of their minds they suspect gold could bottom in December and then repeat its behavior of last year when it bounced hard at the start of the year.

          The chart pattern on the Loonie suggests to me an encore of last year if it drops a little more and then heads higher. The other thing I am eying is a possible double bottom forming in GDX and GDXJ. This could get interesting fairly soon.

            Dec 06, 2014 06:05 AM

            Interest observation about the “proxy” Bird.

            Dec 06, 2014 06:33 PM

            Agreed Bird!

      Dec 06, 2014 06:04 AM

      Thanks Glen.

      By the way, I had a Glenfiddich at the club earlier this week. Great single malt. Much better than Glenlivet in my opinion.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:28 AM

    Doc,Gary,Al,Cory,Matt etc..

    This is an excellent point BDC! Richard/doc I wanted to add that I have a long term target for the canadian loonie at 77/78 that has been the total opposite side of the trade vs the us dollar. If you look back to when the loonie broke down, it’s precisely the 2011 top in guess what? Gold.. Ya got it.. I have about i have six points going both ways for the dollar up to that gap that bdc mentions and the opposite for the loonie. Wti 35/40..Crb contines down into early next year. Look for loonie to hit 77/80 and that could turn out to be the final bottom. The charts are surely screaming it to me. Those ones that I dusted of the other day and LPG was asking about. This is very key as it puts us in a one week/two week parabolic and price action like never before.

    The point I want to make is that I believe the miners will make a move higher once these patterns are in place and being in the canadian market you will get a double whipsaw affect with rising canadian dollar and miners. My gains were impressive in 2008/2009.

    Most of you are in the us ticker symbol for miners. I would say diversify.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:48 AM

      I just want to add that although I see loonie getting to 77/80 target I can’t confirm that there is a gap at 95 for us dollar..Matt,doc anyone can you confirm this on a chart?

      I have the dollar going as high as 92/93 possibly. I believe that is where the neckline is from long term chart.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:09 AM

      Couple of comments Glen,

      First of all I did not share your gains on the sell side in 2008 and 2009. My year to crow was 2010. So far 2011 to now have not been great in the miners.

      Secondly, in my opinion people who trade junior mining stocks really need to go to the Canadian exchanges and work with a broker who can effectively handle those trades. I personally have accounts in both Canada (Haywood and Canaccord) and in the U.S. (Sprott Global)

        Dec 06, 2014 06:55 PM

        Al, that’s great that you have both accounts. Always good to diversify.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:16 PM

      Hi Glen… one thought about Loonie holding strong lately is that Burger King is buying Loonie from market to purchase Tim Horton…. have you happened to factor in already in your analysis?

        Dec 06, 2014 06:03 PM

        genesys,

        Good catch..It slipped by my radar. I’ve been occupied with charts and this is big news. I will say this that regardless of the news the trend continues to be down. Im looking at the 2008 bottom. Puts us around the same timeline and in the 77/80 region. Looks far but if volatility picks up in the next two weeks which i feel it will, then we can have big 2 point moves in all currencies.

    CFS
    Dec 06, 2014 06:26 AM

    For those interested, while dropping his second hour on Tuesdays, Jay Taylor has started broadcasting on other days. E.g.
    http://www.safehaven.com/article/36031/lbma-implosion-by-reversal-of-its-own-gold-leverage.

      Ann
      Dec 06, 2014 06:31 AM

      Thanks CSF, did not know that!

      Dec 06, 2014 06:10 AM

      Thanks CFS

    CFS
    Dec 06, 2014 06:58 AM

    Jay Taylor interview on employment and inflation figures:
    http://jaytaylormedia.com/media/taylor20141204.mp3

    Dec 06, 2014 06:17 AM

    Al,

    I sent you my email address few days ago. You had asked for it. Also im fine now with posting. For some reason my post were not being delivered but that was a few days ago. Everything is fine now.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:11 AM

      I have no idea why that happened.

      If it happens again, please send me your e-mail again and Sarah will take care of it.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:20 AM

    Hey Doc, is this one of the stocks that your are watching? It is on the big board instead of the dying CDNX. Hopefully it moves like RIC has.

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=svl.TO

      Dec 06, 2014 06:23 AM

      This is a chart of the dying CDNX.

      http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$CDNX

        Dec 06, 2014 06:23 AM

        I purposely stay away from any member of this exchange. They are walking time bombs. I used to get a few which were supposed to have graduated from it and then tragedy happened. I aware to god never look at them again.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:29 AM

          I still have one and the lack of liquidity has kept me in it far longer than I had planned. This exchange could take hundreds of stocks down with it and maybe they deserve it.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:02 AM

          They deserves what they got. Sorry it should be Swear not aware in my post. Investors should know that most of them are not viable business, pure speculation instead. I can see a whole sector under depression for a long time even commodity price rise.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:12 AM

          I have never bought or sold a stock on the CDNS. Only the TSX and TSXV.

            Dec 06, 2014 06:24 AM

            TSX Venture Exchange – From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

            The TSX Venture Exchange is a stock exchange in Canada. It is headquartered in Calgary, Alberta and has offices in Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. All trading through the Exchange is done electronically, so the Exchange does not have a “trading floor”. It was previously known as the Canadian Venture Exchange (CDNX), but in 2001 the TSX Group (now known as the TMX Group) purchased it and renamed it.

            The TMX Group also owns the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX). The Toronto Stock Exchange is the senior equity market, while the TSX Venture Exchange is a public venture capital marketplace for emerging companies.

            As of November 2010, the TSX Venture Exchange had 2,364 listed companies with a combined market capitalization of $60,811,203,235.[1]

            History[edit]

            The Canadian Venture Exchange was created in Canada on November 29, 1999 as a result of an agreement among the Vancouver, Alberta, Toronto and Montreal exchanges to restructure the Canadian capital markets along the lines of market specialization.

            The CDNX was created by the merger of the Vancouver Stock Exchange (VSE) and the Alberta Stock Exchange (ASE). The focus of the CDNX was junior companies, i.e., those whose assets, business and market capitalization were too small to be listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX). Often, these were resource exploration companies, but also came to include new high technology ventures. The exchange had its corporate headquarters in Calgary, Alberta, and its Operations headquarters in Vancouver, British Columbia, with additional offices in Toronto and Montreal.

            The Winnipeg Stock Exchange and the small-cap portion of the equities market of the Bourse de Montréal (MSE) were also later merged into the CDNX.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:18 AM

          Hey Al, the CDNX is another name for the TSX.V as far as I know. It is getting confusing just how many exchanges there are. Maybe that can be a subject coming up?

            Dec 06, 2014 06:53 PM

            It is confusing Dan. My mistake was that I thought the CDNX referred to an even smaller exchange similar to our U.S. pink sheets.

            Obviously an incorrect assumption on my part.

            Dec 06, 2014 06:06 PM

            Isn’t the CDNX the poor sister/brother to the tsx?

            Also question for all of you in here. If trading on NYSE or tsx what is the timeline allowed for a penny stock before it will be delisted and sent to the lower exchanges?

            Dec 07, 2014 07:26 AM

            It all started after Bre-X…since then, there’s really only been 2 exchanges in Canada.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:45 PM

      Dan, this is one of the few companies I would even be looking at currently. What I look at is minimal debt, a producing mine, positive cash flow and ongoing exploration to expand their reserve base. Also all in sustaining costs below the price of the asset. In my opinion, this company currently meets a lot of my guidelines. Also, they’re planning on ramping up production in the first half of 2015. Furthermore, the technicals look like their ready to start turning in the near future. This isn’t investment advice. Personally, this company is going on my watch list.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:15 PM

        You know Richard, probably the most compelling reason I have seen to buy miners these past few years is that the price of energy is now falling across the board. As it falls so do all the related inputs and transport costs that miners typically face. Depending on the jurisdiction of a mine, these recent rapid declines in crude oil could be adding 5 to 7% to the bottom lines of some companies in the form of reduced expenditures so even moderately profitable mines at current gold prices suddenly become appealing again. The best way to rationalize the purchase of a mining share is that its primary costs are falling or its core product is rising in price. So given that metals prices are close to (if not already near) a bottom and that this is happening in conjunction with significant declines in the costs of energy it only seems prudent to begin to look closely at the players who are already positioned well. To me the best bets will be Canadian and US listings do to currency considerations. I plan to check Dan’s idea as soon as I end this post. My instincts are telling me it is time to buy miners again…….even before the year is out.

          Dec 06, 2014 06:32 PM

          Bird; technically, some of the foot soldiers already have found a bottom. Some of the generals have further to fall. As mentioned, I began to purchase some miners in the spring and will add at the end of this month since the technicals for some have them falling further and bottoming at the end of this month. For others, they will not see the bottom until the first quarter of 2015.
          You’re correct about the falling energy prices and the positive effects on mining—-disproportionately, the open pit miners will benefit. I would look at these more positively then the “walled” (deep pit) miners. Just some thoughts.

            Dec 06, 2014 06:19 PM

            We are on the same page Richard. I missed all of the shows for more than the past month, by the way. Have any of you covered the angle of falling crude yet and its impacts on mining costs?

            To me this is potentially a game changer where resources are concerned. Not just gold and silver either. The effects will be most welcomed by producers everywhere and so this recent massive decline in energy costs stands to benefit every oil intensive operation across the globe. It might just save the bacon of a few marginal producers in the process.

            I was working up numbers on how beneficial it might actually be but that task turned out to be much bigger than I first imagined. It is kind of a case by case basis and good numbers are harder to come by than I imagined.

            I certainly agree the open pits will see the biggest initial benefits though and those improvements in bottom lines should start appearing by the second quarter 2015 so now is the time to be shopping if we are to believe oil will stay down or fall further.

            In such an environment even a modest increase in gold and silver prices will compound and magnify those improving margins thus making some miners into very good bets going into the coming year.

            I am surely not the only one watching this with interest (you too I am betting!).

          Dec 06, 2014 06:10 PM

          Bird,

          Good to see your noticing a trend change soon..I’ve been really adamant about wti hitting that 70ish zone. We have passed that now. Im really hoping we can at least get one more strong push down. I have some cash i want to deploy but im hungry for cheaper share price. Doc,Gary,Bird,Matt do you guys think we can get one last strong push down or its up and up from here?

            Dec 06, 2014 06:23 PM

            Not sure if my instincts are a good measure for judging the future Glen but if I were to take odds I would bet oil prices keep falling through to spring before a bottom arrives. It is my suspicion that winter and cold weather are mot going to derail this current declining trend that is already in motion.

            Dec 07, 2014 07:20 AM

            Thanks Bird..

    Dec 06, 2014 06:22 AM

    Birdman has flown back from the abyss (;-) Should have some good stories and ideas having been lost to us in the land of no cell service.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:30 AM

      Indeed I do have a few new stories. Positive ones too. The boom in my part of East Africa is accelerating rapidly right now. It looks to me they will hit a critical mass of infrastructure development in about two years time if the world economy does not derail to slow them down first.

      From an investment perspective the time to be here on the ground floor has already arrived and there is now some industry consolidations underway that is a sign of maturing in the business environment. There is sure no sense of economic gloom here though. Certainly nothing like what is happening in the West.

      The economy is buoyant and growing in leaps while inflation remains subdued below 10%. A great deal of job creation is happening now and textiles/shoes have become key industries almost overnight as the Chinese, Turks and Indians have moved in with force.

      Very interesting stuff going on over here actually so with luck I will be able to post some stories from the front lines in the next weeks. It will maybe be a break from hearing all the bad news from everywhere else!

      This is a Yin and Yang thing though. When an economy falters in one part of the world it just makes sense that it would be growing somewhere else as capital shifts to happier hunting grounds and finds better opportunity.

      One thing is certain….we cannot lump all the Emerging Markets into a single basket. That would be a big mistake and East Africa’s development trajectory is proof that some countries are bucking the global trend deflation and slow growth trend.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:38 AM

        Priceless information! Thanks BM.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:14 AM

        Give me some insights, if you would Bird, on the investment climate in Nigeria.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:57 PM

        That is valuable information. Thanks Bird!

    Dec 06, 2014 06:34 AM
    Dec 06, 2014 06:26 AM

    Gary, after the first break you mentioned that you put hedges on your mining positions the other day. Then you said in 3 months from now those will probably have done very well. Do you mean your hedges or your mining positions will have done very well 3 months from now? Thanks.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:47 PM

    Please give my congratulations to your good friend Walter Jones. Mr Jones was one of only ten congressmen who actually read H.RES 758 before voting on it. This resolution was filled with enough lies and propaganda to make Joseph Goebbels blush. No self-respecting congressman would have voted for this resolution if he had read it first.
    Your other good friend, Ron Paul wrote a good essay on this topic which was published by ZeroHedge: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-05/ron-paul-warns-reckless-congress-just-declared-war-russia

    Dec 06, 2014 06:02 PM

    Al, have you ever given any thought to making the transcripts of your show available. Sometimes, it’s helpful to go back and re-read a certain excerpt. And, not to mention, it could be easier.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:58 PM

    Thanks Chico. Great idea.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:08 PM

    Thanks again for a great show to listen to (admittedly whilst planting my vegetables out the backyard ) 😉

    LPG….it was nice to hear your thoughts on todays show.
    I’m looking forward to a France trip next March, never been there before.
    Cheers.

    Dec 06, 2014 06:10 PM

    LPG- I agree with Skeeta, it was good to hear your thoughts —which I thought were excellent throughout. I’m glad that you brought up the fact that “the big oil companies have an interest in seeing the smaller companies disappear.” I don’t think this angle is given nearly enough thought by most observers.

      Dec 06, 2014 06:25 PM

      Yes Matthew,
      The big companies are also currently ripping the guts out of the smaller companies over here in the Iron Ore sector.
      It happens in every sector.

        Dec 06, 2014 06:39 PM

        I agree.

        Dec 07, 2014 07:41 AM

        Sometimes out of revenge for an ex-employee who started their own start-up company.

      LPG
      Dec 07, 2014 07:06 AM

      Thanks Matthew/Skeeta,

      2 more things:
      FIRST THING: Re: the US+KSA vs. Russia on oil:
      I think Al misunderstood me re: KSA-USA.
      I did say that in the 1980’s, the US + Canada and with the help of the Saudis helped bring the USSR down (via lower oi + gold prices).
      But re: what’s going on CURRENTLY, I didn’t say the US and KSA are working together against Russia.
      What I mentioned is that the US are happy to stick it 1) to Russia and 2) to Venezuela, while KSA is IMHO happy to give to A) the US shale oil producers as well as B) to Iran. I was shifting US/KSA back and forth so maybe this led to this confusion.
      Personally, I am NOT SURE KSA is working alongside the US to weaken Russia. I’m not sure at all. But at the same time, I can’t rule it out.

      As Richard/Doc mentioned quite rightly on a podcast on Friday, it is no mystery that the relationship between the US and KSA is not exactly what it “used to be”.
      I just personally notice that when the US finally decided to act in Syria (and Iraq) under the premise of acting against ISIS (……….), then finally, at a time when OPEC could have cut production to maintain prices, it didn’t. I personally believe the US is starting to hedge its bets in the Middle-East by slowly befriending Iran but 1) it takes time and 2) it can’t be seen doing so to quickly after calling Iran one of the countries part of the “axis of Evil” (even if a former president said that, not the current one).

      Remember that in Syria the first “ISIS targets” where an oil refinery that ISIS had taken over [errr…. in other words, a refinery of the Syrian regime which had fallen into the hands of ISIS fighters for a few weeks].
      So was there a “give and take” between the US and KSA on that front, I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there had been one.

      Iran seems not fooled in that story and understands that the US (and some GCC countries) bombing Syrian infrastructure weakens the its allied Syrian regime on the long run while on Northern Iraq, weakening ISIS helps the “de facto” slow/progressive establishment of a kurdish state. Note that Iraqi kurdistan has plenty of oil, while an independent Iraqi kurdistan means less money for the shiaa-led and Iran-allied central Government in Baghdad.

      Lastly, to finish on the “geopolitical” aspect of oil, I want to draw the attention to some “events” which occurred in Chechnya a few days ago where a few policemen were killed and troups were mobilized to kill “terrorists” in the capital.
      I wouldn’t be surprised if, in the coming months, we see conflicts erupting in areas controlled or under the influence of Russia.
      These new conflicts or flashpoints would force Russia to spend more money on arms/fighting + would have to potentially send troops (with potential casualties translating into a slow growing discontent within the civil population as the young boys die) in combat zones. Again, that would be a repeat of the 80’s. I also believe Vladimir is well aware of these risks, and is preparing his boys/army for this. We’ll see.

      SECOND THING: the “financial angle” of lower energy costs:
      Personally, I cannot put aside the FINANCIAL RATIONALE of some “powerful players” such as central banks for having low(er) oil prices.
      IMHO, lower oil prices enable 1) the FED to NOT HAVE TO RAISE RATES anytime soon and 2) avoid a total implosion/mess up of the Japanese economy.
      So if some of the central bankers of the world want to show that their own QE is working, then an implosion of the economy where QE is implemented (be it the US, Japan, potentially the EU soon) has to be avoided AT ALL COST.
      And for Japan, which is in the spotlight/which has been “given the relay stick”, it is crucial for energy costs to come down ELSE its domestic producers/companies will start to go bankrupt by the hundreds – literally.

      As a final aside, I was also misunderstood on one topic: I never worked in France.
      Started in finance in London – but worked in Singapore beforehand – although that wasn’t in finance – then moved to the Middle-East.

      Best to all, and as always, GL investing/trading

      LPG

      PS: Skeeta, hope you’ll enjoy your upcoming March trip.

        Dec 07, 2014 07:26 AM

        Very interesting, LPG; I like the way you think.

        Thanks!

        Dec 08, 2014 08:59 AM

        LPG,
        I have a conference to attend to in Cologne,
        My wife insisted we fly into Paris & spend a week there together, then the girls will spend another week on France when I get the train to Germany. They will come over a night before flying out home.
        I can only imagine the damage they will do on the plastic whilst tgey are there…..I’m shuddering already.
        Cheers.

          LPG
          Dec 08, 2014 08:49 AM

          Hope the whole family will have a good time Skeeta.
          I feel sorry for the plastic indeed 🙂 But at least you’re prepared 🙂
          Best to you,
          LPG

    Dec 07, 2014 07:43 AM

    Worth reading:
    Will There Be Forced Official Sellers of Gold?
    http://www.acting-man.com/?p=34615

      Dec 07, 2014 07:44 AM
      Dec 07, 2014 07:09 PM

      Lets all say thanks to god we don’t live in Venezuela. What a basket case! That 16 fold decline in the Bolivar in just two years had to hurt. We might be seeing a lot more of that in other countries in the coming years though, Matthew. As the deflationary trend accelerates in the developed economies the inverse appears to be arising in some emerging markets. That is to say that strong inflationary trends will be seen outside the major countries of the US and Europe. I believe it is already beginning here in East Africa where economic development is still high and dollar shortages persist. Foreign investors here are keen to borrow in the local currency on the belief inflation is going to be rising and thus there is a premium to be earned if you are repaying from a stronger currency. How beneficial it might be is unknown but land costs and leases are cheap in real terms. The dollar has appreciated 15% this year alone versus local money. That is a pretty good return on currency differentials no matter what you bought. Of course it only applies to those with USD or Euro accounts, not to locals who are stuck in their own money.

    Dec 07, 2014 07:54 AM

    Consider if you will, that we are living in time of the ‘waxing gibbous market deformity’, where the crash happens at the end of a long vicious cycle since 2000. A hunchback living in a bell tower,is it not?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbus_deformity

    Dec 07, 2014 07:38 PM

    I believe the general consensus on this forum and gold bugs is that gold will drop further this month and should allow a ‘Once in a lifetime’ oportunity to buy into the miners. Thereafter gold should rally into the first quarter, 2015. Is this just wishful thinking? What would be driving gold and the miners higher in the first quarter in a similiar action to last year ? I just dont see it. The dollar could keep going higher and central banks in Europe could start selling gold driving it lower and lower.

      Dec 07, 2014 07:10 PM

      That maybe was the consensus back in September Biggus. It does not reflect how I feel personally anymore though. Here is why…..silver bottomed when it hit 15 dollars and although I wish it would return there again I now seriously doubt that is in the cards.

      My downside bottom target on silver had been 16.30 which was hit. That target overshot and we saw 15.00 just days later before returning again to 16.30 which is close to where we sit today. This is just a stupidly good price and an excellent entry point in my opinion.

      Secondly, it is getting pretty late in the year for gold to hit that 1050 bottom predicted by Goldman’s Currie and the charts are not suggesting we go further down in 2014 anyway.

      In all probability then we have also already seen gold’s bottom when it breached the 1150 area and I am saying that from the backdrop that if silver saw its final bottom already then gold cannot be far behind as the two metals have such a strong tendency to track one another from peaks to valleys.

      It is really amazing what a difference a month makes.

      Before I got cutoff from the outside world back at the end of October I had been finally turning bullish metals again. That idea has been reinforced in my mind with even more conviction after a review of the charts in the light of December.

      I am not a seller of gold anymore. I also believe it is time to buy a selection of miners. Even if I am wrong there is very little downside room to disappoint anymore. The dollar meanwhile does look like it is about to reverse beginning this week though so time may be short and gold action looks about ready to heat up.

      If we are about to see a replay of last years bounce in gold I suspect it is actually going to come a little early in December (now) and get underway immediately rather than begin in the New Year.

      Just my thoughts for the morning. I think the shakeout has ended.

    Dec 07, 2014 07:17 PM

    Biggus,

    Not sure when the final bottom will be in but i have a ton of cash waiting to be deployed. Im sure im not the only one. At this point anyone short the miners has balls of iron. For you to be short at this point would be the fuel that I have used on every camping trip with the family when one could not find a spark..I’ve always found a way to ignite the trip! This gold camp has been waiting for the longest time and I suspect we are closer then one thinks.

    cheers

    glen

      Dec 07, 2014 07:58 PM

      Anything is possible, Glen but not everything is likely. My best evidence for the bottom is silvers declines into the abyss and lows below 15 dollars. It is possible I am reading too much into that but in conjunction it now appears the market may be preparing to punish Mr. Draghi for his inaction on interventions by pushing the Euro back up. With gold tracking the Euro so strongly of late this just smells like an encore of January 2014 when metals blasted higher for the first quarter. I will play it by ear since I cannot really look beyond a 3 month window. There is still plenty of impetus to push the dollar higher longer term and lots of good reasons for it to break to new highs but technicals suggest in the shorter term a reversal is imminent. Like you, I would NOT be short miners right now. Especially with falling energy costs.

      I am still doing a lot of catch up here though. It has been more than a month since I had a chart on my screen. That is one of the downsides of living in the African wilderness. I am feeling positive overall though and the only thing that bothers me is 15 dollar silver came and went and i missed it.

      But there is a new trade every single day. I didn’t really miss much. Actually, it feels more exciting to have been blacked out all those days. Gives me fresh eyes to see the markets like for the first time again.

    Dec 07, 2014 07:20 PM

    Bird,

    We will get one more washout! Mark my words 🙂

      Dec 07, 2014 07:17 PM

      Glen, from the inversed lease rate and negative GOFO rate as well as several fast reversals, the physical withdraw has finally overcome the paper short when the price was pushed down. The shorts may try one more time but I feel that 1180 looks like a line in the sand. Above it bullion banks can control and below that the physical is bought quickly. I think it should be safe to buy into physical weakness under 1180. I am looking for all the bullish factors to push gold and silver higher from some time next year. Money printing relay by CBs has to result in inflation. If price does not rise quickly, I am looking for miner default to reduce the supply for silver, not much impact for gold though due to above ground supply

        Dec 07, 2014 07:44 PM

        I mentioned to Doc a little while ago that no one seemed to be focusing very much on the yearly close for gold.

        …..it just may have a story to tell…..lets see.
        Cheers.

          Dec 08, 2014 08:47 AM

          That is one worry. We closed down first year in 13 years last year around 1203(?). If gold close at the current level it is still down. We can see whether it is necessary to close at the lowest point for the year.

    Dec 08, 2014 08:50 AM
      Dec 08, 2014 08:52 AM

      Looks like as oil goes so does the doomed cdnx index. The baby is going to be thrown out with the bath water.

      http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=HOU.TO

        Dec 08, 2014 08:00 AM

        I guess we are given so many years to prepare for this and we haven’t done anything. Our system seems to be paralyzed with no action. I have to pray for Alberta. Hope we are lucky.

          Dec 08, 2014 08:04 AM

          The CDNX has so many bad companies on it, it deserves to die. I predict a recession for Alberta in 2015/16 and the possible cancellation of pipelines. We will bounce back but for now money flow is exiting this area. Hold on tight and invest well. (;-)

            Dec 08, 2014 08:13 AM

            I agree. However, the exchange allows companies to stay even it is dead. Lots of them worth 0,.05 for years. Do you know how long they can stay? I think as long as they file the paper work and pay the fee, they can walk as zombies. I have one dead company Risinco at 0.05 with no trade for days. It is still on TSX. I guess it is worse in TSX.V.

    bj
    Dec 08, 2014 08:57 PM

    Enjoyed Mr Downs segment, especially after he discusse Bush’s signing statements. The only difference between Bush and Obama is that Bush shuffled his boots in the dirt at the corral and gave us a bunch of ah shuckin’s whereas Obama fluffs his feathers and struts the barnyard crowing like a rooster. Both refuse to enforce immigration law, et al. They get away with because we have so many laws that it’s impossible to enforce them all.

    Al, think much of that personal animosity between Ds and Rs is political theater. They play the public like a piano in a whore house to drown out what’s going on upstairs behind closed doors.

      Dec 08, 2014 08:14 PM

      You’re darn right it’s theater, they have the same masters and, ultimately, the same agenda. There are exceptions on both sides, I’m sure, but not many.