I had to refer to Seg 8 before any of the others. Brilliant, prophetic Bob is NOT using hyperbole when speaking of ‘a cesspit of criminals’. We have them here in the UK, insofar as most of our politicians are puppets of the Obama administration. Bob I know you’re not religious (can’t fault you there!), but you remind me of those solitary prophetic voices in the Old Testament, where one spokesman often against thousands (of false prophets) were derided, or worse still just plain ignored. Another prophetic voice – and not uncommonly dismissed for being a doom-monger is Paul Craig Roberts, whose message below is essential reading.
Thank you Al and Cory for ‘daring’ to call on Bob’s unequivocal insights.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/12/12/brink-war-economic-collapse-paul-craig-roberts/?awt_l=4g_YQl&awt_m=3YrxQQBMejnjM89

Thanks, Bob, for describing people like me as war criminals.
So be it.
In times of war, I guess it takes a war criminal to have the determination to win.

The US waterboarded 3 detainees.
I do not consider that as torture.
The rest of those at Guantabino were not waterboarded.
I do not consider stripping people of their clothes and putting them in diapers as torture.

Since it is common practice in the US to waterboard their Seals as part of their training, I personally do not consider waterboarding as torture.

Further in light of the information extracted, I consider the actions of the CIA as acceptable.

Consider the so-called torture of one of the detainees, KJhalid Sheik Mohammed.
He was the mastermind behind 9/11.
Was he hunk from his neck until dead? No.
He was treated with sleep deprivation and waterboarding.

The information extracted from him, for the most part still saecret and not released, stopped a second 9/11 style attack (rumoured to be in California) from occuring and lead to the capture/killing of the 17 terrorists who would have carried out that attack.

Similar waterboarding and treatment of other capture terrorists lead to information about the Bali bombings in Indonesia and have kept the US and the UK safe from further attacks so far.

The detainees at Guantanimo were not Prisoners of War, but capture terrorists.

The release of the “Intelligence” Committee Report; a one sided report written by Democratic staffers, without input from Republicans, and without any interviews being made with the 3 previous C.I.A. directors or the three previous CIA deputy directors was a hachet job, performed by an extreme partisan in the throes of losing power.

OK, now attack me……

I will return later to address comments.

I believe, with some exceptions, the CIA acted with restraint.
It did not use other than the minimum amouunt of coersion necessary to extract information vital to inhibit further attacks, in a TIME of WAR.

And make no mistake, the Islamo-Facists have declared war on the West.

With regard to the Omnibus bill, the amount of earmarks was atrocious.

Clearly most of the politicians are corrupt, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

A revolution is needed.

Now that cfs and BM have exhausted their self-congratulations I’d sooner heed Craig Roberts any day.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/12/11/cia-torture-report/

Man jealousy?

Silly, silly boy.

While folks are casually using the word “torture” to describe the actions of the CIA, perhaps you might wish to inform me, when any US court of record has ever ruled which specific actions of the CIA are torture.

Good Luck on your search.
In the absence of a specific finding that torture was used, why do you pander to the Idealogs in the Democratioc party smear campaign of Republicans?
I dislike and condemn torture per se, but I also recognize a political attack when I see one.
I also dislike the damage this campaign has done to the US image.
I may have left the US as a protest against its corrupt politicians, but that does not mean I dislike the US itself or its people.

I also feel that it is necessary to defend the once great country, not only against physical attacks of war, but even against bad publicity..

Given that the country is under attack by Islamo-Fascists, I believe it is necessary to do whatever is the minimum amnount to thwart those attacks.

I do not believe ANY competent Government should do other than what is necessary to protect its people.

The debate should be about what is the minimum necessary, not a blanket condemnation, without actual discussion of details.
I realize not all the details have been made public, but I feel Bob Moriarty to be in error when he claims nothing was obtained via enhanced interrogation ytechniques.
In order to obtain information, it was necessary to break the spirit of such people as Khalid Sheik Mohammed.

Perhaps Bob might tell us how he would do that.

Evil happens in time of War, but I feel the US is much less evil than most countries/warring factions.

A comment to Glen Downs:
I don’t think any restrictions/regulations/laws are going to save the TBTF banks, in the coming default. At extremis there is not enough money in the world to rescue the situation.

P.S. Notwithstanding their lies to the contrary, the Democrat leaders were fully briefed on all anti-terrorist actions (“torture”) etc. in September of 2002.

e.g. using a paper of record, go look at Dec 9, 2007 print edition of Washington Post.

(There had been a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed against the CIA and when it was clear they were going to lose the action, the CIA dumped a lot of records on the public in early December v2007.)

The course of stocks and the World economy has gotten down to two words ” Money Printing”.

One huge factor for the displacement of the middle class is artificial intelligence, we no longer have to wrestle with ” over production or over capacity” like the late 1920’s now we have a situation of no jobs. Artificial machines can and do design their own replacement.

Record Oil Tankers Sailing to China Amid Stockpiling Signs

China sees blue light special on crude.

Dec 12, 2014 12:26 PM ET

The number of supertankers sailing to China jumped to a record in ship-tracking data amid signs that the oil-price crash is spurring the Asian nation to stockpile.

There were 83 very large crude carriers bound for Chinese ports, according to shipping signals from IHS Maritime compiled by Bloomberg at about 8:30 a.m. today in London. The ships would transport 166 million barrels, assuming standard cargoes, the largest number in data starting in October 2011. The cost of hiring the vessels surged to the highest in almost five years, according to Baltic Exchange data.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-12/record-oil-tankers-seen-sailing-to-china-amid-stockpiling-signs.html

Maguire – This Is What Has The Gold Shorts So Terrified

“With massive sovereign bids in place at the $1,208 level and below, and the gold market in London imploding, it will be very difficult for the cartel to have a sustained push to the downside in gold. It would have the unintended effect of exacerbating what is already a very panicky situation for the bullion banks and others.

But it’s also important to note that if the 100-day moving average is taken out on the upside in the gold market, then the sovereign buyers will almost certainly raise the price of those bids. This would have the effect of putting additional pressure on what are already very fragile and worried short positions in the gold market.” The incredible Andrew Maguire audio interview is available now and you can listen to it by CLICKING…http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2014/12/13_Andrew_Maguire_files/Andrew%20Maguire%2012%3A13%3A2014.mp3

I would encourage listeners of this weekend report to focus on the Michael Belkin commentaries. I believe both are excellent and “right on”—-probably because they reflect a lot of my feelings for the markets going forward. Oil will fall further as will most of the commodities. They will be bottoming out late in the first quarter of next year. The PMs and stocks are already bottoming with minimal downturn from here. I like particularly his feelings about Pretium and Newcrest mining companies—-from a technical standpoint. The conventional markets are in a broad topping pattern and at great risk. Sentiment should start to shift as we move into the new year. The dollar is in topping mode but should not see a significant move down until the second quarter of 2015. However, it’ll all be a process for the PM stocks. Most will trade in ranges for weeks to months before we see the next large move up for the PMs. A minority of PM stocks will start their moves higher before the large majority of companies when their all in sustaining costs are under control and they show free cash flow on a consistent basis, solid measures of liquidity and ongoing exploration for future reserves. There are only a very small number of companies currently in that boat.

Re Seg 7 by sanitising our language we suppose it means something different. e,g and here I’m not homophobic, ‘gay’ means homosexual, but why call it by that absurd name? Or why ‘straight’ for heterosexual? For doesn’t that suggest that non-heterosexuals are crooked? As for Quantative Easing it’s nothing other than money printing. Likewise Enhanced interrogation techniques are just a bluff term for torture.
Al ponders how we can do something: It’s a very good question. But I’m minded to think that Burke’s dictum about ‘evil flourishing when good men do nothing’ needs an updated amendment: ‘Evil flourishes when good men who choose to do nothing thereby compromise their own goodness’.

I hope Bob is right and a revolution happens.

Absolutely Bob. On a lighter note get a look at Putin’s tiger.

http://news.sky.com/story/1391354/putins-tiger-filmed-eating-domestic-dog

Very good to hear you Bob, thought your posts were excellent too.
Unfortunate so few are as informed as yourself.

Now Austria wants its gold back!!!
https://www.blanchardgold.com/investment-news/the-longview/gold-recall-movement-spreads-to-austria/

Torture?

You know what’s torture?

When animals cut people’s heads off and want to make sausage meat out of it.

That’s torture.

When animals rape little girls, then mutilate them and light them on fire.

That’s torture.

Depriving terrorists of sleep is not torture

The problem is we have twisted perverted anti Semites like you who call right wrong and wrong right.

Get your head out of your communist manifesto and see the writing on the wall, you twisted POS.

you know what I’m sick and tired of?

Americans living off the blessings of this country and trashing it nonetheless.

We are the most charitable, giving nation this world has ever known.

And you have socialists anti Jew anti Americans who want to take it down.

Get out of the country, spend a few years somewhere else, than come back, get on your knees, repent, and thank the Lord for the United States.

In the mean time keep selling your useless information to your followers you take advantage of.

You are nothing more than a twisted perverted capitalist with a gift of gab. And that is putting it kindly.

Today sat. they vote before 12 midnight to pass 9 month budget. If not an extension till wensday. I agree with elizabeth warren that this budget bill is a mess and give big banks a free ride. The tenfold expansion in amount rich can contribute to a political party. its ridiculouse waste of money best to all S

Al, thanks for having Michael Belkin as a guest in the first two segments, happen to agree with his analysis. With regard to the current state of world governments and their affects on life, economy and culture wanted to mention a very good book ” The Race to Save our Century ” Five Core Principles to Promote Peace, Freedom and a Culture of Life “by Jason Scott Jones and John Zmirak. It offer a great review of how cultures and humanity have come to this point of war and corruption but more importantly very powerful sound remedies to get the USA and and all nations back on track. It would be great if you could get them on the show with Ron Paul and Peter Grandich in a round table panel, to name a few !!! Always listen to the weekend show and enjoy the commentary.

Here is an interesting story from Casey Research re Thomas Jefferson’s’ reflections on the early days of the Republic in America as well. Great video on the Christmas Truce of 1914 at the end.

http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/the-hundreds-thomas-jeffersons-forgotten-plan-for-restoring-a-failed-republ#story

The US Government Don’t make mistakes ok ! All is plant ! Bush and Dick Cheney are no Crocks day rule you ! OK stop DREAMING !

For me, torture is justify IF the information needed has corfirm. Otherwise is war crime. I say that if someone in my family is hijacked and I find the bandit, I gonna torture him and then kill.

if ISIS was trained by US/NATO intelligence in Jordan. Bin Laden a paid CIA asset, the Egyptian spring funded by USAID and other ngo that get funding from congress. The US (NSA) can listen in on conversations of everybody along with their cohorts in UK (GCHQ) NZ (GCHB) Aust (DSD) and Canada (CSE) ala Echolon. They can just focus in on the person of interest and intercept all communications and know what they are going to do before they do. Why do they fund all the other groups I mentioned? To create strife in anothers country. Overthrow and if it doesn’t work out per the western handlers send in NATO/US force to take control. Why the torture if they can get the information other ways? Turn out prisoners to work for Western Intelligence to keep the game going. Spy on others, lead movements to overthrow or cause conflicts in other countries or to fight NATO forces so NATO can keep a continued hold in the region if it wants. Think ISIS in Iraq. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/26/cia-guantanamo-bay-double-agents

if you think this has something to do with getting information, you have been fooled

If you are into numerology, today is interesting!
Today is the last sequential DATE EVER !
12-13-14

BTW,
CFS, you need to do some research. You are seriously indoctrinated!

Makes sense to me Bird, I don’t ever recall you saying anything on it.

I actually agree with your position on pretty much everything, except of course Isreal and Palistine, which I see Bob M as having it figured out.

I have read a bit on this “war on terror” as far as I can tell its propaganda used to relieve us of liberty.
Like this TSA at airports, all bs, its just training people to obey uniforms.
There are videos of guys flying all over the states, going thru multiple security checks with flasks, simply to prove its bs.

We are living in a fascist police state, with all the educated souls around here, we still don’t see it.

The elites prepareing to take us to yet more war have nothing to worry about.

Your right to be off this continent imo.

DOW YOU REALY NOW HOW LOW WE HAVE FALLEN ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp76cHN2FDU

Once again guys thank you for the weekend show.
I enjoyed listening to Michael Belkin…but….

His promoting of Aussie listed Newcrest (NCM) cocerns me somewhat.
Yes…the share price is beaten down.
Yes…after many years of absolute sh@t management they are slowly turning things around & have slashed costs everywhere.
But…..
As an ex shareholder I would personally not buy now.
Look beyond the share price….look at debt…& when its payable.
Then look at their margins.
A capital raising ‘maybe’ necessary to reach debt obligations if the gold price was to fall further or go no where for a considerable time.
Want to speculate then go for your life ?
But be careful who you choose is what I’m saying.
Cheers.

I am appalled that some on here think torture is OK.

If another country took your *insert* father/mother/wife/brother/sister/child & submitted them to the same atrocities would you also think its OK because that was in their national security interests ? Or would you change your tune ?
Would you also find it acceptable for your own country to torture your family members if the thought it was necessary?

Be careful what you wish for….what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Cheers.

I see some sentences above on Anti-Semitism.

Historically, an Anti-Semite was a Gentile that hated Jewish people for their behaviour, for what they owned, for what they thought, for the power they had, or simply for having the label Jew,

Today another possible definition exists: an Anti-Semite is a Gentile that is hated BY Jewish people for their behaviour, what they own, for their power, for what they think or point out about anything contrary to Jewish collective interests.

In a sense, one needs to clarify which Anti-Semitism is in play, or if both are, in what senses and contexts.

james – I like your comment. Of course originally a semite was anyone of mid-oriental background – Arabs as well as Jews. However as the term is now understood we all know that naked anti-Semitism (anti-Jewishness) is a light sleeper, and to be abhorred. The trouble is that the whole subject of Jews living in Israel portrays good Jews and extremist Zionist ones (bad Jews) in the same light. Post WW 2 and who could blame the Jews of Europe and Russia for seeking aliya and wanting a homeland of their own? However aided and abetted by politicians, born-again Christians and Zionists – the conviction grew that Israel was there by divine right. Many Jews and Christians would contest that. Best, A

U.S. Bank examiners to become the new preppers.

http://sgtreport.com/

Citing moral outrage at so called torture that violates some Geneva treaty is a canard. During war, one does what is necessary, not what is just moral. Should president Truman have been prosecuted for war crimes for incinerating 200,000 Japanese civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Thousands of civilians were tortured for weeks before they died from radiation burns. Because of the war circumstances, I would still argue that it was necessary, but by no means moral. That was then, but do morals really just change with the fashions of the times, and rules conjured in Geneva? Our constitution protects citizens against cruelty from government, but does not apply to enemy prisoners of war.

That some innocents may sometimes get cruel treatment during war, is regrettable, but women and children killed in a drone strike is at least as abhorrent, and we know that occurs far more more often.

War is hell. It is by nature cruel, brutal and unusual. Many of us accept that God had the authority to order Saul and David to kill all of the Amalikites, from men, women, children, and even livestock because God deemed it necessary. Are we to judge this as a war crime? Our shallow understanding of morality has nothing to do with war.

These last days I have been becoming increasingly optimistic on the gold action for the coming year. As I watch the dollar in particular it is telling me that its time has come to begin a reversal versus the Euro. That could be in the works already although my target was for the start of the year. Gold looks poised to break above 1250 as early as Monday or by Tuesday at the latest and silver should respond by heading above 17.50 ….so for me it is short dollars, long gold (and particularly miners) as 2015 gets underway with targets to start acquiring oil producers at any time but more aggressively if price breaks below 50 which I believe is coming. whether right or wrong, that is the simple plan at this time.

I still think we have a big washout coming in gold before the bear cycle ends.
I’m sure I’m the only one thinking this right now. Lol

It seems everyone is lost regarding TA.
Which is right where it needs to be pre-washout.

Matthew,
I am completely lost regarding TA. That’s why I look to others better than my self.
It is true I’ve been looking for the wash for about 8 weeks now. It actually is 6 weeks behind schedule, according to the cycle.

I do follow global finance a bit better than most. The wash will come, guaranteed!

You’ll see

Matthew,
We all have our opinions here, and I’ve learned some valuable things from many on this site. As a collective group, there is much wisdom here.

I would rather voice my opinion ( right or wrong ) rather than lurk and learn.

Anyone that’s lurks has nothing to give ( therefore is nothing )

NEW TOPIC…………….ABE WINS IN LANDSLIDE…………….JAPAN………..what does that tell us…………………………QE more than ever……………………………jmho

Arabs happy to see oil to 40 bucks. Middle East stockmarkets crashing today.

HONG KONG OPEN………………………gold up………….

SIDNEY……….what is happening……….another world problem………………..

Sydney: AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY??

That is the crime. It is white Genocide. IT is state violence. Politicians past and present must be held accountable. ‘Just obeying orders’ is not an excuse.

The state hides behind its guns and use of force while it avoids accountability to the population for the creation of multiculturalism, White genocide and state over-reach into everything.

The four stupid things the Americans have done in the war on terror……all have made the situation actually worse.

#1 The unjustified wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lies and weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist. The 911 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia yet the house of Saud got a free pass. No focus with a shifting game plan. Was this about freedom or oil? Did Bush junior try to finish his daddy’s war?

#2 Guatanamo. Bush should never have opened it and Obama who promised to close it continues the injustice. The injustice becomes a great tool for recruiting new terrorists. Anyone who defends torture hasn’t learned from history and doesn’t deserve the freedom they are trying to defend.

#3 Drone strikes….far too much like playing a video game with no accountability or skin in the game. Far too many innocent lives lost.

#4 The police state. If you give up your real freedoms in the name of a freedom in name only are you any further ahead? Has it made anybody safer?

THIS will answer some questions

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CdE1Cwnymzc

Doc…..I ask about the charts and your opinion on RIG a few days back, and you suggested I follow up near the middle of the month. What’s your thoughts??

Ron,

It’s one ugly chart! I’d say its going down to test the bottom of the channel at around 11/12 bucks. There demand is not as needed with the coming cost cutting measures. Personally if it sails down into that channel and its late jan/feb you go in 50% first tranche.. Feel her out then add more.

Not investment advice but glens eyes looking at a chart. 🙂

I keep hearing words like washout,murked,cleansing etc etc. Ladies and gentlemen we have a bottom and that was on november 5th. I hate to say this but many of you are going to be left behind as miners within my portfolio are confirming breakouts comparable to 2008 charts. My forte is reading the miners cycles themselves and there charts. Forget the rest. Iamgold has broken out and is leading the pack as it lead it down in 2011. I can’t express this in any other way. Start buying..The correction will come in january but it will be a retest of breakout.

The Torture Report, and What It Left Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDQLXZwR4KM&index=1&list=UUsgWR55UyAiFarZYl1u1l9Q

Al Please phone me when you the chance
cell 503 481 1578
KUIK 503 640 3160

JOHNSON MATTHEY…………JUST SOLD THEIR BUSINESS…………is that a sign…….

BANK OF RUSSIA …….RAISES INTEREST RATES TO 17%

With respect to segment 8 and Bob Moriarty, it sounds like you are a bunch of democrats partisan hacks piling onto the CIA. That report was written by democrats without any input from the CIA. In other words, the democrats wanted to portray a certain point of view and they cherry picked the facts without showing all the facts. That is like a court case where a judge allows the
prosecution to present its case without letting the defense present its side. I am extremely disappointed you guys just piled on like the mainstream press without having the facts. It was very clear you had very, very few facts.

It is all the rage these days to pile onto the police and to pile onto police-like organizations like the CIA. Honestly, if these people did not show up every day to defend us this country would be like Iraq right now. What this report was was a democrat food fight in the Senate for political reasons and none of the facts were properly presented. This report was a fraud and a lie.

I simply cannot believe you did this hatchet job. Most of your other programs are pretty good, but this was amateurish beyond belief. You might do well to interview someone to explain the CIA’s side. You might realize just how stupid and ignorant this democrat report was. Check out for example this interview of James Mitchell who personally interviewed Kahlid Sheik Mohamed and listen to what was done. None of this was in the democrat report.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3944074408001/cia-interrogation-architect-reacts-to-interrogation-report/?playlist_id=2694949842001#sp=show-clips

Again, I cannot tell you how disappointed I am in your hit piece against the CIA in segment 8. It was extremely ignorant and uninformed. I can tell you that we have not had an attack on American soil because of the great work the CIA has done in the last 13 years. They deserve a little more respect then this hit piece crap you put up. That was pathetic.

We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false. CIA Director William Casey

Interesting, the comments have not refuted what I have said. Again, that torture report was a democrat opinion and nothing more without showing the facts but hat are facts to democrats.

Here is an idea to the Kereport peole. Invite James Mitchell to come on Kereport to hear his side; or, another idea would be to invite Hughe Hewitt to comment to give a more balanced approach. You might learn something. Hewitt would be a very interesting counter balance. Would that be possible? Or do we just want to here one small myopic side and bury the rest? This was not a very informed interview at all.