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    Oct 24, 2015 24:33 AM

    Al / Cory, was the interview with Louise Yamada done before the big move up in the conventional markets on Thursday?

    Great interview – off to listen to the other interviews now.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:40 AM

      Marty comments on TA, Bias, Artificial Intelligence, and cycles.
      http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/38340

      BTW: I would love to see John Williams and Martin Armstrong discuss the inflation/deflation argument .

        Oct 24, 2015 24:12 AM

        “they never revise their thought process”….bias of a goldbug…..good one….

        Oct 24, 2015 24:28 AM

        We will contact John. Mr Armstrong does not seem to have any interest in being on our show.

          Oct 24, 2015 24:36 AM

          He might get exposed ……and get some real comments directed his way.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:26 AM

      Yes it was.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:50 AM

        Thanks Al – I just wonder whether the big moves in the conventional markets on Thurs and Frid and would have altered her viewpoint.

          Oct 24, 2015 24:29 AM

          Hi Bob,

          You are talking about one of the disadvantages of pre recording! We need to stop that.

            Oct 24, 2015 24:38 AM

            Yes, quick Al – invent a time machine using a de lorean.

            Oct 24, 2015 24:35 PM

            I wish that I owned a De Lorean!

            Oct 24, 2015 24:59 AM

            Well you see what they did to MR DE LOREAN , x from general motors……..They gull winged him out of business……GULLABLE , thinking the govt is here to help.

            Oct 25, 2015 25:55 AM

            Good point Bob UK, and funny on the De Lorean time machine.

            The strength in the markets on Thur/Fri did surprise me, and the S&P close was right in the target I had as the top for the markets. Now, I’m really on the fence as I have heard countless arguments for both the bull and bear case in the general markets, but I am very curious to see how things are going to develop next week on the front side and back side of the FOMC meeting.

            Great interview with Louise regardless of the pre-recording before Thur/Fri action.

            Oct 25, 2015 25:33 AM

            Big Al – thanks for having Keith Neumeyer on to discuss his outlook on the silver industry, on First Majestic, and on the smart acquisition of Silvercrest.

            I agree with him that some of the smaller single mine or even double mine Silver producers are in a bit of tight pinch financially right now, and this would hinder the takeover of these companies by a Major or Mid-tier until the prices improve and they can get their houses in order on the balance sheets. $18-$19 silver will solve many woes for these companies, and I am confident that in the medium-long term these concerns will be resolved. At that point we may see some interesting mergers when the larger companies scramble to scoop up some smaller ones.

            It was also interesting that they were looking at the distressed smaller exploration companies for large land packages and future exploration projects, over the small producers with large debt at this time. People could still do quite well with companies that have a Pre-Feasibility or preferably a Feasibility Study in place, and compliant resource, and that may be a takeover target.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:04 AM

      Good question. This market (conventional) reminds me of 2011. It took a dump in the summer then went back up in Oct then backed off in Nov then it took off.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:53 AM

        Remember the Fed has you back……………..lol, …..I think it is going higher, just because it makes no sense…….and Fitts, has been calling a CRASH UPWARDS, and so far she has been correct. She was an insider and knows the morons at the govt. level of cover up……………….JMHO

          Oct 24, 2015 24:55 AM

          exposure to $1.2 QUADTRILLION , this is the number on the Turd report, that cfs posted., which keeps coming up, and has not changed.

          Oct 24, 2015 24:16 PM

          I think it is going higher

          Could very well be the case. TPTB don’t want a repeat of 2008 in 2016. They want to make sure Shillary or Jebby get elected and a financial crisis could through a wrench in that.

            Oct 24, 2015 24:30 PM

            The election certainly has something to do with the action of the FED, and the string pullers……………

            Oct 24, 2015 24:32 PM

            Exactly which election are you referring to Moscow?

          Oct 24, 2015 24:34 PM

          It certainly does make sense if you realize the “game”!

    CFS
    Oct 24, 2015 24:46 AM
    Oct 24, 2015 24:52 AM

    IT’S ALL RIGGED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Oct 24, 2015 24:13 AM

      MARK

      Are you talking about worms? I rigged a few last week and caught me a SUCKER who believed the “official” line that central bankers run the world.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:00 AM

      Everything in life is rigged including all stocks and commodities as well as politics. Oil went down too with gold when it should have gone up. The opposite of what we expect usually happens. Everyone was expecting a major crash and I figured the majority would be wrong and the market has shot up. I loaded up more at 1867 which was the final line that the banks would support.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:08 AM

        Paul L,

        It seriously depends on how you define “rigged”

        I would agree definitely with politics being rigged, but only if a person agrees that the media has the power to DRAMATICALLY sway public opinion.

        Secondly, regarding commodities sure they are “rigged” if a person accepts the fact that the majority of the “rigging” results from almost naked shorting.

        Regarding the stock markets, sure they are “rigged” if a person realizes the the implication of “free money”

      Oct 26, 2015 26:34 PM

      good thoughts from Eric. Thanks CFS.

    CFS
    Oct 24, 2015 24:03 AM
      Oct 24, 2015 24:07 AM

      CFS

      If there is one thing that I learned from watching this video, it is HOW NOT TO make a video. Talk about mundane! It would have been much more interesting had he hired a voice over artist for 5 bucks at fiverr.com (maybe a video editor too). Very painful to watch and way over my head to be totally honest with you.

      https://www.fiverr.com/categories/music-audio/voice-overs/#layout=auto&page=1

        Oct 24, 2015 24:28 AM

        Bentail…………DO you own any part of this company?

          Oct 24, 2015 24:29 AM

          Do you do voice overs?

          Oct 24, 2015 24:30 AM

          FRANK

          I wish I did. My guess is that the founders are doing quite well. I work in the field of healthcare and nothing more. No, I do not do voice overs. that said, I have been told several times that I do have the voice for it.

            Oct 24, 2015 24:32 AM

            thanks for the followup…..appreciate……..and thanks for the “fiverr”….

        Oct 24, 2015 24:29 AM

        Check out How to Shoot Video That Doesn’t Suck: Advice to Make Any Amateur Look Like a Pro by Steve Stockman.

          Oct 24, 2015 24:05 PM

          WAYNE

          That’s funny. I actually own this book – it’s quite good (and funny). A great read.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:27 AM

      CFS………..GREAT TAPE………………THANKS………

        Oct 24, 2015 24:34 AM

        Problem with the information, it will not be used by the DOJ, because NO ONE IS GOING TO JAIL, the DOJ just showed no one of HIGH standing is going to jail , SEE LOIS LERNER exonerated………

          Oct 24, 2015 24:35 AM

          THE tape should be labeled………”SHEEPLE SKINNING BEGINNING”

    Oct 24, 2015 24:29 AM

    Louise is the greatest.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:43 AM

      I think she is very good. If, you look at her past record, she seems to be correct.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:45 AM

        She has been on KWN…..many times…….

          Oct 24, 2015 24:48 AM

          Interesting she was at CITI, and who needs a TA expert, if you are CITI, ……TBTF, gets all the info first hand at the FED.

            Oct 24, 2015 24:49 AM

            if, you review the above post of CFS, by TURD……….THAT SAYS IT ALL…….

      Oct 24, 2015 24:30 AM

      She definitely is, Bill.

    CFS
    Oct 24, 2015 24:44 AM

    I agree with Jeff Deist

      Oct 24, 2015 24:31 AM

      I am not surprised!

        Oct 24, 2015 24:32 AM

        My response referred to Louise being on King.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:33 AM

      I agree a lot with Jeff.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:45 AM

    Is Harry Dent right? thoughts……

      Oct 24, 2015 24:31 AM

      I do not follow Mr. DEnt.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:49 AM

      Dent has been calling for a major crash in his emails targeting a Dow of 3000 for months and the market has taken off in that time. He is just a broken clock. Here is his wack email from a few days ago to sign on more subscribers:
      ECONOMY & MARKETS | October 19, 2015
      Dear Subscriber,

      Harry warns in his latest video that “we are about to see a historic drop in the Dow to 6,000… and when the dust settles… it’ll plummet to 3,300.”

      Considering he has predicted nearly every major economic trend over the last 30 years… including the 1991 recession… Japan’s lost decade… the 2001 tech crash… the bull market and housing boom of the last decade… as well as the credit and housing bubble…

      I urge you to pay attention to what he is warning now.

      Read the facts for yourself here.

      Sincerely,

      Shannon Sands
      Publisher, Dent Research

        Oct 24, 2015 24:17 PM

        Considering he has predicted nearly every major economic trend over the last 30 years…

        The problem is he has predicted 10 of the last 3 market crashes. 🙂
        (Not saying he’s wrong this time around.)

          Oct 24, 2015 24:55 PM

          10 Out of last 3 except the three times the crash did come 🙂 I remember he was busy predicting DOW 36,000 in 1999.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:20 PM

        BIG AL

        I used to believe many of the speculators I heard (since I totally suck at investing). Had I have put as much effort into studying investing as I have studying the world around me, I would be an extremely wealthy man (there is no doubt in my mind).

        I used to embrace countless reports by “experts” who claimed the same thing as Dent. They too said that a collapse in the markets was just around the corner. It never came (this was years ago already). The funny thing is that for each claim by an “expert” that says the markets will SOON crash, there is a claim by another “expert” saying the exact opposite. I have come to believe that this is being done intentionally to create absolute confusion and uncertainty in the world (along with FEAR). This allows those who are in the global driver’s to by-pass human logic – it activates the amygdala which by-passes rational thought (even for short while). This continual bombardment on the amygdala causes people to think and act irrationally (they become stuck in reactionary mode rather than using common sense to steer their thinking).

        My point is simple: yes, I believe that the markets will ultimately crash BY DESIGN in order to usher in the one world economy spoken of in scripture. And so, whether or not Dent is right makes little difference to me since the bible is clear that a one world economy will eventually be established.

        Any person (including Dent) who is armed with a bible can “predict” the collapse and will eventually be right on the timing if they make the claim year after year! I can do it, you can do it, and Dent can do it. One of these days, one of our guesses (that is what they are) will be right. And I can guarantee you that IF and WHEN we get one of our thousands of our guesses correct, we are NOT going to brag about the thousands that we got WRONG, but will boastfully focus our attention on the ONE that “we” got right.

        And that is why I refuse to get caught up in these silly predictions by “experts” (be they Dent or so-called whistleblowers like Snowden). I will deal with things IF and WHEN they happen and not prior to it. I believe that this is why Jesus told us to be not afraid – FEAR and CONFUSION by-pass rational thought. And without rational thought we become ships without anchors.

          Oct 25, 2015 25:31 AM

          Good point Bent nail.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:45 AM

    Technical analysis is useless in markets as rigged by government as gold and silver are
    http://www.gata.org/node/15868

    As for politics – there are people who donate to the politicians they want for the laws they want. The result is the rule of men (and women), not the rule of law. So lawlessness reigns. Those who expose the lawless, those who stand up to the circus: they are either corrupted, blackmailed, ignored, or assassinated.

    The Clintons are part of the “minion class” for the trans-national elite. They can both be bribed and blackmailed as necessary. The payback is on CNN.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:42 AM

      see the armstrong link i posted above, TA is highly dependent on Humans and as we know they are highly flawed.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:48 AM

        the greatest downfall in forecasting is human reasoning, which is extremely difficult to remove, for we all have a tendency to prejudge as we are ingrained with various cultural biases.
        http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/38514

          Oct 24, 2015 24:33 AM

          Well said Bobby…………………………j

            Oct 24, 2015 24:37 AM

            I would agree with some of Bobby’ s comment, Frank.

            Oct 24, 2015 24:45 AM

            Bobby will be glad to hear that………

    Oct 24, 2015 24:52 AM

    JHPACE1

    And who might “those who expose the lawless, those who stand up to the circus” actually be? Do you have any examples other than Kennedy?

    Thank you.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:42 AM

      Google “Truth Embargo”, or just watch the mainstream news when it comes to politics in America or abroad. To see the victims, that is. The ones who stand up? Mr. Royal Raymond Rife, Dr. Leonard Coldwell, Dr. Steven Greer, Mr. Stan Deyo; Mrs. Catherine Austin Fitts; some have been persecuted, some assassinated, some run out of the country, some marginalized. The lists are both long and short, and by our history, we can judge the outcomes.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:39 AM

        I like FITTS……..has some great insight…..because was in the circle.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:39 AM

      How about this site?

    Oct 24, 2015 24:49 AM

    Reassuring to hear Fist Majestic’s CEO acting with commendable restraint.

    LPG
    Oct 24, 2015 24:21 AM

    Haven’t listened to what she has to say but…. It’s great to see Louise in on the show. Kudos to Big Al on this one.

    Thanks also for bringing Keith in.

    Wishing you all a pleasant WE.

    LPG

      Oct 26, 2015 26:37 PM

      agreed. Both Louise & Keith are top shelf guests.

    bb
    Oct 24, 2015 24:44 AM

    I think the Liberal win in Canada is a pretty big deal.

    Legalization alone is huge, heck the savings on court cost alone might pay for the deficit.
    Actually overall it should be beneficial, tax, saved police hours etc, and the big one, an end to criminal records.

    Withrawing troops is big too, it signifies Canada will no longer be a puppy of the American war machine. Australia has already withdrawn Ive read.

    Justin also has the common sense not to buy that turkey f35 and he intends to end blind support of Israel.

    Its a significant change in direction I think, and deficit or no, not bombing hospitals, schools and children is worth it.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:17 PM

      Liberal receives no support in Western Canada. In my city, pretty much all PC. Liberal has bad image in Alberta due to Trudeau senior’s energy program and his famously middle finger gesture to Western Canadian voters. This generation of voters have to die out before Liberal wins Alberta. In my riding, PC got 65% of the vote. People predict that the conflict between west and east will start again like in the 80s. Let’s hope the Trudeau junior is not as damaging to the West like his father. The economy can no longer take it.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:31 PM

      Harper put us on the ISIS map of countries to attack. I am sure there are better and much cheaper jets available from Britain, France or even Russia or Israel.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:07 PM

        I wouldn’t worry ISIS attacks. However Harper’s foreign policy is something I don’t like. He totally damaged our peace maker middle man kind of role in the world affairs. His domestic policies are fine. There are very few good politicians. One I do like is Paul Martin but he did not last.

          Oct 24, 2015 24:13 PM

          Off course our King Ralph

        Oct 25, 2015 25:29 AM

        Sounds like another indoctrinated Politically Correct “let’s not offend” train of thought.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:11 AM

    bb, I wonder how much The Canadian Government will be on the hook for cancelling The F35 contract however; it still won’t amount to the cost overruns of staying in which have been astronomical. DT

    bb
    Oct 24, 2015 24:41 AM

    Good thought DT, I forgot about that.

    The thing about that f35, from what Ive read or seen in vids, is it will be target practice for Russian and or Chinese fighters. They would get shot out of the sky so fast as to be completely useless.

    There was a competition in India awhile back, the Indians used the Russian fighter they make for export.
    The west used our most advanced aircraft, f series.
    The Indians blew us away. 12-0

    If your interested watch the vids of the su 27.
    The f 35 is no comparison.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:04 AM

      The F 35 is a blunderbuss compared to Migs of any spec. Sensible tacticians know that for a fact. Furthermore, Trudeau’ s first move is a super snub for both Harper and Obama.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:16 PM

        A person can be proud of Canadians, even if they do not live there (I’m saying this is in the nicest way)

          Oct 25, 2015 25:33 AM

          Of course I completely agree with you!

      Oct 24, 2015 24:16 PM

      In the battle, the deciding factor may not be who has better planes. Russian fighters always have superior mechanical design and manufacturing. If we enters a one-on-one dog fight, US planes may not win against the best Russian aircraft. However Russian command system in a grand scale is lacking, at least before. So when China buys a Russian plane, they upgrade the electronics. The problem for US air force is the most aircrafts are still F-15, F-16, which are 70s technology. F 22 is a failure and F-35 is unreasonably expensive. If think they really need upgrade the equipment. Whether drones can replace fighters plans is an unproven. The problem for Canada is that the best we have is CF-18. I am not sure buying the expensive F-35 is the solution.

        bb
        Oct 24, 2015 24:02 PM

        Dragon, expensive or cheap the f35 is a terrible combat aircraft.
        It is built to do too many things, so does everything poorly.

        I believe our best option would have been the “superhornet”, it can at least compete with the Russian jets.

        If we wanted the best fighters we would have to buy from the Russians.

        Maybe Canada should make their own.

          Oct 24, 2015 24:39 PM

          Canada used to make our own but prime minister just gave to US. It is very unfortunate.

            bb
            Oct 24, 2015 24:23 PM

            Yup, the Avro Arrow comes to mind, Canada has been a vassel state for awhile.
            The whole Avro team went to the states I believe.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:58 AM

    IT’S ALL RIGGED !!!!!!!!!

    Oct 24, 2015 24:27 AM

    A little humor: “October is a particularly dangerous month to speculate in stocks. Followed by July, January, September, April, November, May, March, June, December, August, and February.” – Mark Twain

      Oct 24, 2015 24:33 AM

      ha,ha, good one………..silverdollar………….

      Oct 26, 2015 26:41 PM

      Mark Twain has so many great quotes. Thanks Silverdollar.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:32 AM

    OWL…great comments on Billy and Helly………hell yes they are bad news.

    LGC
    Oct 24, 2015 24:33 AM

    Mark, I have been say that for 10 to 15 yrs. ITS ALL RIGGED!!!! Stories are put out there that a certain belief exists about how something functions and this becomes a rote belief system. This belief system allows for people behind the scenes to them put their own desires forward and override what is believed. RIGGED!!

    Oct 24, 2015 24:38 AM

    Big Al got me worried about that whole QE thing again. But all I will say this time around is hoooperrr, hooooooperrrr. Lol

    And on another note…about time you get a lady guest on the show!

      Oct 24, 2015 24:43 AM

      I agree Jason.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:26 AM

        He has had them before, but, far and few between………

        Oct 24, 2015 24:54 PM

        Hey Al and Cory
        What about approaching the Aden sisters for a Saturday segment?
        Brian

    Oct 24, 2015 24:41 AM

    GREEN ENERGY…..going no where…….if BIG OIL has anything to say about it.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:42 AM

      best thing one can do is recycle your trash, and plastic for your local dump.

        Oct 24, 2015 24:27 AM

        Actually we do, Moscow.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:11 AM

    The MACD is now showing a buy signal on the s&p unless I am reading it wrong. The black line has crossed above the red line. It was a sell signal from around March to now.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:12 AM

    On the weekly chart, gold can drop another $30 without ruining the positive intermediate term outlook:
    http://schrts.co/FjQBlr

      Oct 24, 2015 24:19 PM

      Matthew
      Rhetorical question:
      If gold drops $30 = does an ounce weigh less?
      Just kidding, of course, Matthew; good chart as always
      Brian

    Oct 24, 2015 24:19 AM

    According to Larry Berman gold likely has a bottom at 1,100 as at that price half the gold production would have to come offline but he is not seeing any big moves up either for a number of years and that gold stocks are good for a trade.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:43 AM

    Gold is starting to look promising vs the 30 year T-bond:
    http://schrts.co/CEfmDR

    Oct 24, 2015 24:50 AM

    A chart to watch:
    Gold priced in S&P 500
    http://schrts.co/qjeDRE

    Oct 24, 2015 24:13 AM

    The opportunity in the miners today is even greater than it was in the late 1990s.
    XAU priced in SPX:
    http://schrts.co/Uww3z9

      Oct 24, 2015 24:36 PM

      A lot of us certainly feel that way, Matthew. The only question is “timeframe”

      Oct 25, 2015 25:22 AM

      Agreed about the opportunity in miners being greater now than it has in a long time. However, only for the survivors….. 🙂

    Oct 24, 2015 24:18 PM

    Thank you as usual Matthew..you have an audience.

    JP
    Oct 24, 2015 24:37 PM

    I think Chris has some excellent observations about the rally in the conventional markets, which in my view are the result of a number of ‘co-incidents’ happening this week (ECB, PBOC, ‘fantastic’ results from GOOG, MSFT and AMZN simultaneously).

    The money printing and legalise’ stealing continues with ZIRP in place, allowing global corporates to ‘buy back’ stock with freshly printed fiat currency, further empowering the elites of the world, while the servants are laid off by the hundreds of thousands.

    It’s one thing though that the software giants make a lot of money. That should not surprise anybody given the still parabolic growth of anything internet and mobile software/services/apps related. Another thing, and a major litmus test for me will be Apple’s earnings. Apple is dependent on hardware sales, and I estimate that their numbers will disappoint; in fact, they may disappoint badly. Add to that the debt ceiling debate and another round of useless FED rhetoric, and we have the ingredients for a potentially volatile and disturbing effect on the conventional markets.

    Anybody that wants to weigh in on these? What do you expect from Apple?

      Oct 24, 2015 24:32 PM

      I, personally cannot comment on Apple as I leave that to Rick.

      Regarding software giants, I happen to agree.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:41 PM

    I think that this week is warning that major indeces can rally to reach previous highs with little or no momentum as central banks have blatantly entered the market. It’s not abnormal for markets to desire a rally after the top, mostly because sentiment is convinced that higher highs are in the cards.

    A rush into junk this week:

    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d748e3b6-7912-11e5-a95a-27d368e1ddf7.html#axzz3pUDxvwXy

      Oct 24, 2015 24:30 PM

      thanks FranSix

        Oct 25, 2015 25:08 AM

        It really depends whether central banks continue to rally markets, or whether sentiment fails to carry.

          Oct 25, 2015 25:17 AM

          I agree Fran Six

    Dan
    Oct 24, 2015 24:58 PM

    Enough of this bubble phase in the stock market nonsense. Only some of the big caps (perceived safest) are making new highs, everything else globally is in a downtrend.

    If I see biotechs and small caps blasting off to new highs then we can start talking about it.

      Oct 24, 2015 24:29 PM

      Thanks Dan

        Oct 24, 2015 24:13 PM

        Mr. Big Al,

        Heard that American banks are turning away large cash deposits from corporations. Also, starting next year money funds will be able to break the buck. How do you think things like this will impact little people like us?

          Oct 25, 2015 25:37 AM

          Cannot answer without doing a bit of research.

            Oct 25, 2015 25:20 AM

            Thank you, Mr. Big Al. Please let us know what you find.

            I think people will be in for quite a shock when they start losing money in money funds.

            But this is a logical step in the war of financial repression our rulers are waging on us.

            The war will not cease until savers are destroyed.

            BTW, Mr. Big Al, I did not mean you are one of the little people as I know you are a bigwig.

            But I bet you have money in money funds.

            Oct 25, 2015 25:22 PM

            Bigwig? In the eyes of my pooches!

      Oct 24, 2015 24:02 PM

      What’s your forecast for the conventional markets over the next couple of years?

    Oct 24, 2015 24:59 PM

    Deist is right about Hitlery. I think she is home free, scandalwise.

    Any more attempts to go after her for her corruption or incompetence will just illicit hostility from the masses.

    I think it is pretty clear Hitlery will be the next dictator…er…prez.

    On the RepubloCon side there is nobody but Trump and the new world odor, banksters, etc. hate him. And his nomination will whip the liberals, minorities and women up in a frenzy to get out the vote against him.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:42 AM

      I spent some time this weekend studying her past and I cannot support her. Too many unanswered issues and she seems to ? we too much of an actress.

      I really did try to keep my emotions out of it, by the way.

        Oct 25, 2015 25:11 AM

        actress or insider/criminal..like the rest o the group….

          Oct 25, 2015 25:26 PM

          Possibly both, Agatha!

    Oct 24, 2015 24:06 PM

    Off topic and old but good article by Rothbard. Anyone who thinks this is or was a free country should read it.

    Forcing “Medication” Down Your Throat
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/10/murray-n-rothbard/forcing-medication-throat/

      Oct 25, 2015 25:38 AM

      Thanks Eddie.

    Oct 24, 2015 24:02 PM

    One of my favorite quotes outside of scripture is by Lewis Carroll. It is smack on in my humble opinion.

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn’t be. And what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?”

      Oct 25, 2015 25:36 AM

      Great bentnail

    Oct 24, 2015 24:05 PM

    Jeff Deist take on Trudeau is out to lunch! His neo-libertarian B.S makes me wanna PUKE. Get better informed and less ideological zealots on your show please. Harper f-ed up Canada and its gonna take at least 10 years to repair his shiet policy cancer.
    Cory Trudeau got %39.5, NDP got %19.7 and Hartler got 31.9% of the vote. Centre and left of centre parties have constantly made up 60%+ of the Canadian popular vote. That centre-left %60 has been held hostage by the %39.7 Con voters who have run roughshod over so many government institutions, police, citizen advocacy groups, scientists and business. One of the most popular proposals of both the NDP & Liberals has been electoral reform. Once that gets implemented this 19th century broken system will be gone and replaced with a form of proportional representation. They are looking at the French, New-Zealand and German systems to replace it. This will put the hard right Con party to reconsider its neo-con “starve-the-beaster” agenda. The Cons will actually have to go back to their original “progessive-conservative” roots. I can’t wait. The fatuous “light-fascism” that has become a staple of U.S politics and a throw back to the “Ugly American” syndrome is soon to come to a close in Canada. Remember we are the only central bank that is owned by the people in the Western world. I support the lawyer and citizens group who are taking the Government/Bank of Canada to court for anti-constitutional and illicit funnelling of interest payments to big banks http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-case-to-reinstate-the-bank-of-canada/5430132
    I attended the hearing 2 weeks ago. Fascinating stuff!

      Oct 24, 2015 24:15 PM

      +$C

      Oct 25, 2015 25:44 AM

      His neo-libertarian B.S makes you wanna PUKE? You don’t don’t know much about Deist if you think he is uninformed or spewing “B.S.” You also need to think again if you are implying that he’s a neocon.

      In addition, you don’t understand economics or history if you think that left-wing collectivism is the antidote for right-wing collectivism. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

      The whole world is well on it’s way to hell PRECISELY because of the vast number of people who might call Deist an uninformed zealot.

        Oct 25, 2015 25:19 AM

        I completely agree Matthew

        Oct 26, 2015 26:17 AM

        Matthew,
        OUCH! You are right…I should have taken out the PUKE as it was too mean spirited. Thanks for your “kind” rebuttal:)
        I do get your points that Deist is not a complete amateur and is qualified to speak from a right wing perspective. My point is that they should have gotten a more qualified individual who truly understands Canadian politics. Deist and Corey are NOT those people! This is why what they said is mostly b.s. One more thing, I really believe conservatives in Canada will have to go back to their roots now as electoral reform takes hold. This is a not a bad thing in my books. If electoral reform does take place, I image the far-right Reform Party contingent will separate from the Progressive Conservative party side once again. This is also a good thing.

          Oct 26, 2015 26:57 AM

          Confused, Deist is not only not an amateur, he is an expert when it comes to sound economic principles. He is definitely qualified to speak about bad policies wherever they reside.

          Most nations are getting whipped into submission by the globalists’ “left” and “right” hooks but few understand what’s happening. The unprincipled, unthinking masses on the left AND the right will go nowhere until they reject what they’ve “learned.”

          I don’t know much about Tom Clancy but he had a couple things right:

          “Being a victim is more palatable than having to recognize the intrinsic contradictions of one’s own governing philosophy.”

          “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.”

            Oct 26, 2015 26:07 AM

            thanks for your opinions about Jeff. I happen to agree with you Matthew.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:32 AM

      Sorry but I cannot agree with you.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:20 AM

      Left socialist policies have not worked and will not work. I favor a free market capitalist economy. Trudeau obviously has taken the the party, once I supported, to the left. Harper is not ideal leader but he is the only conservative party. Wealth creation is far more effective than wealth distribution in any society. Canadian provinces have paid heavy prices for socialism. All provinces which have elected NDP have dropped to the bottom, which may also include Alberta. People were foolish enough to elect a party they never liked just to say no. Now it is pay back time. I am voting Wild Rose in Alberta, BTW. In federal election I will vote PC before Liberal comes back to policies led by Chretien and Paul Martin.

    Oct 25, 2015 25:00 AM

    Thanks for the show guys !
    Cheers.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:21 AM

      Our pleasure Skeeta.

    Oct 25, 2015 25:32 AM

    The gold community is far too bullish. It is overwhelmingly bullish and many are absolutely certain of seasonal bounce that has arrived early. The belief is that the dollar will decline very soon off this recent sharp rally and thus gold will catch a bid into November, December and possibly a huge rise into January. All the usual bullish talk is present again. The rationalizations for owning gold have again come to the forefront. It is protection against easy Central Bank policy…..it is garlic against an economic collapse and loss of confidence…..and it is the one thing that has certainty when all else looks shaky and unstable. But I think that the gold-bugs have gotten ahead of themselves one more time. We are still in a bear market on a technical basis and have not yet broken out on a weekly level. The positive vibes and bullish reasoning are about to meet face to face with reality one more time just as the handsome young stallion, all puffed full of hormones, hairspray and over-confidence, accepts that he will be taking the ugly girl home from the bar again. The dollar and gold will fall together. Sorry….but it can’t be any other way. Long bets will be punished. and gold will end 2015 lower in price than where it started on the final day at the end of 2014.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:20 AM

      I kind of agree, but I do like the resiliency being shown.

        Oct 25, 2015 25:04 AM

        It should all work itself out in time. No question about that.
        ——————–

        I hope you are keeping well Al. Sounds like you have some challenges right now. Hang in there, man.

          Oct 25, 2015 25:28 PM

          Keeping okay, Listener. Down 15 pounds so far and that is a good thing!

    Oct 25, 2015 25:56 AM

    Even if you don’t like Gerald, I give him a lot of credit for this movement.
    http://www.occupypeace.us/

    Oct 25, 2015 25:13 AM

    Not sure if anyone else is picking up on this but I think that European equities and US equities are going to diverge for the next month. Usually they go pretty much in lockstep together but I feel that is about to change. Maybe I’m nuts but I am looking for US markets to fall back in November and Europe to stabilize or rise. Guess we will have to watch and see what next week brings.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:19 AM

      those refugees will be buying the equities…

    bb
    Oct 25, 2015 25:03 AM

    Good to read your thoughts Listener.

    I agree, its still a little early for “to da moon” calls.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:13 AM

      Is there still anyone out there making that call? I don’t see any. Even in KWN, the call is much more modest now. I think most bullish Sprott is making call only for $2,000, I wouldn’t classify that as to da moon.

        bb
        Oct 25, 2015 25:17 AM

        Its an expression Dragon, like “soar””rocket””blast off” etc

          Oct 25, 2015 25:46 PM

          Maybe I have problem with English. Those words seem to describe speed not magnitude. We can blast off to 1300 but you cannot say to da moon to 1300. They should not mean the same. Even for those words, I rarely hear any more.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:34 AM

      Thanks bb. My doubts won’t prevent me from nibbling at the edges if anything looks promising of course. We can never know for certain which way this goes but what I see happening is a shift from the US to Europe, not a shift into assets like gold……not quite yet anyway.

      The Fed wants to raise rates and as the time draws closer the markets response will be to reduce exposure to over-priced US stocks and shift to greener pastures. This will entail capital flows into Europe and Asian equities.

      This is the trend I see forming up right now as a few things happen at once.

      The dollar will decline now that it has hit (or nearly hit) its upper channel boundary that is clear on a weekly chart. The Euro meanwhile is set to start rising on a cyclic basis.

      So if US stocks are going to decline as a result of a small rate hike (which effectively amounts to tightening in investor minds) and we can foresee that the Euro will rise and European markets will catch a tailwind due to Mr Draghi’s endorsement of more interventions then it seems obvious to me the obvious reaction will be a shift from the US to Europe.

      This is fundamentally why I think US and European markets will diverge with one falling and the other in ascent. In such cases one might catch a double benefit of a rising currency and the potential appreciation in stock values (as opposed to suffering a double loss by staying with a market that gets soft even as the currency falls.

      Anyway, this is my basic premise for the next month at least. We shall see.

        bb
        Oct 25, 2015 25:49 AM

        I don’t buy equities really, especially not other than Canadian, but it occurs, those sanctions on Russia are gonna end, wouldn’t that make some European companies a bit more profitable?
        The real big ones I can see, should be Russian and Chinese related to the railway building.

        Course being a goldbug I will forego all that and get rich on gold. lol

          Oct 25, 2015 25:04 PM

          You can get exposure to Europe through Canadian ETF’s then if you prefer to not own any stock outright. I would have to go dig up the tickers if you are curious but pretty sure Horizons offers a couple that follow the major indices there. Check the Beta-pro’s because as I recall there was a leveraged ETF.

          Call me nuts bb…but I am looking at buying Volkswagen for starters.

            bb
            Oct 25, 2015 25:35 PM

            Far from nuts, they not goin broke.

    bb
    Oct 25, 2015 25:14 AM

    I reiterate that gold ain’t goin’ anywhere anytime soon. It will remain range-bound within year-to-date highs and lows for the short-term.

    This is no trick or treat, folks. As per usual, I will put my mercenary money where my mouth is:

    I stand ready and willing to entertain over/under bets on gold’s end-of-year spot price from any of the aforementioned gold bugs, perma-bulls, and yellow metal disciples. If you foresee a break-out of gold to the upside in the next couple of months, contact me for a friendly wager: $100 bottle of wine, loser buys, and we drink it together.
    Any takers?
    Ciao for now,
    Mickey Fulp
    Mercenary Geologist

      Oct 25, 2015 25:25 AM

      I like Mickey Fulp. He is a character for sure, and someone I’d enjoy drinking a beer with or a $100 bottle of wine.

        bb
        Oct 25, 2015 25:58 AM

        Mickey Fulp the best I have found, all his work is free too, he really is trying to help people navigate the resource sector.

        IF, I was filthy rich and was pondering investing millions in a mine, I would hire Mickey Fulp to evaluate the project, management etc, he might even be worth hiring for a couple hundred k investment depending on where it and he was at the time.

        That where he makes his money, other than investing his own coin of course.
        So, all his writing, evaluations of project, resources, markets are free.
        He is the real deal.

        Oh, he also refuses to buy a new car, (like myself) they are depreciating assets. lol
        Im a bit of a Mickey fan, could ya tell?

          Oct 25, 2015 25:31 PM

          Mickey Fulp is one tough hombre…wouldn’t expect anything else from the Mercenary Geologist.

          Oct 25, 2015 25:17 PM

          Mickey is okay.

        Oct 25, 2015 25:21 PM

        Just happen to have a great red that he gave to Kathy and I.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:46 AM

      I agree with him bb. Some here might be forgetting how much of a barrier that 1200 dollar line in the sand is too. Recall how many times gold passed just under and over it before finally breaking down. Well now that 1200 level is fierce resistance and I doubt it will give way easily. Even at the 1190 mark gold has tired and looks more inclined to put in a double top than break free and soar higher.

        Oct 25, 2015 25:19 PM

        Agre for a while anyway on$1200′

      Oct 25, 2015 25:52 AM

      I agree with both A Listener and BB about the PMs. We’re weeks and months away from a new established bull market—-it’ll begin gradually and then slowly pick up steam over time before we morph into the real thing.

        bb
        Oct 25, 2015 25:06 PM

        I might have mentioned a time or two now, 2020-2025 is my timeframe.
        I like your thinking of showing actual life 2016 fall, building steam gradually thru 2017 and we riding a bull from there.
        And a monster it should be.

        5-10% accumulation of physical should be all that’s required to keep a person in a living standard they are accustomed to. A few right stocks, well, who knows?

          bb
          Oct 25, 2015 25:17 PM

          Should anyone accept Mickeys bet, you realise that win or lose you would have to sit with Mickey the length of time it takes to drink it.
          One of the most knowledgeable people in the resource sector there is.
          Privately sitting, I would assume a conversation might happen, maybe about resource companies. Im not sure, but that might be a bet I didn’t mind loseing.
          Anyone seeing my tinin?

        Oct 25, 2015 25:14 PM

        Hi Doc, good to hear from you. We seem to be on the same page. My bet is that US markets pull back beginning next week although I will hold fire until I am more sure. I am not in the camp that sees a renewal of the 6 year old bull market anytime soon. There is certainly no final parabolic rise or bubble phase in the cards I look at. What is in decline will remain in decline until it has resolved itself but there is just no telling what kind of a correction will ultimately unfold or how steeply it may fall. I do however suspect that we will need to see a decline during November if we are to get a Santa Claus rally into the year end.

        I also think long bonds are going to keep falling.

          Oct 25, 2015 25:21 PM

          I think the Santa Clause rally is a given – just a question of whether it is now already underway or whether we are going to get one last correction before it begins.

          Perhaps Apple will light the way one way or another on Monday night?

            Oct 25, 2015 25:13 PM

            Perhaps, Bob.

          Oct 25, 2015 25:29 PM

          As I’ve noted for several days—expect a continuing move higher the last 2 weeks of October. It looks like we may have a little more momentum up for the conventionals especially the earlier part of this week. Then I think things could get a little dicey. A good part of November could be a risk—-I still feel the month to watch is going to be January to tell us whether this is just another correction in an ongoing bull or a correction to suck people in at the beginning of a bear market. Either way, don’t expect the kind of gains for the conventionals we’ve seen in the last 6 years. The global economy is on life support and will remain that way. You’ll be lucky to get 3% gains/year going forward in a very long and tired conventional bull market. As we’ve talked about for weeks, the risk/reward for a large number of reasons is no longer on the reward side for the conventional markets.

            Oct 25, 2015 25:01 PM

            Sage advice Doc.

            Everthing seems to be dependent on a handful of tech stocks now. Caterpillar and Walmart seem disaster signals for the wider economy yet everyone is piling into Amazon, Google and co.

            Oct 25, 2015 25:08 PM

            Good point Bob!

            Oct 25, 2015 25:12 PM

            You think even three percent Doc?

          Oct 25, 2015 25:15 PM

          What do you think about my question regarding even three percent?

          Oct 25, 2015 25:33 PM

          Also, the odds are very good for the dollar to drop back soon and for the PMs to get their final rally in this move before they head south into December.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:25 PM

      Done Mick. I would enjoy sharing a Bootle of wine. Regardless of who buys. Time to catch up!

    Oct 25, 2015 25:05 PM
      Oct 25, 2015 25:36 PM

      Interesting article. Mchugh has been bearish for quite a while. There are many similarities to 2007-08 but there are also many similarities to the summer of 2011 when the conventional markets got hit but by the end of November they were back on their way up.

    Oct 25, 2015 25:20 PM

    Bob Hoye spells it out about Canada’s newly elected New Age dreamer:
    http://talkdigitalnetwork.com/2015/10/this-week-in-money-22/

      Oct 25, 2015 25:51 PM

      On the bright side, the socialists are going to get exactly what they deserve. Of course, they’re going to do their best to make sure the rest of us get what they deserve too.

        Oct 25, 2015 25:10 PM

        So darn true, Matthew!

    Oct 25, 2015 25:25 PM

    Krugman Hearts Solar and Wind, Attacks Fossil Fuels
    http://contrakrugman.com/ep-4-krugman-hearts-solar-and-wind-attacks-fossil-fuels/

    Oct 25, 2015 25:45 PM

    Some guy on KWN is calling for 230 trillion/ounce gold if the world blows up.

      Oct 25, 2015 25:10 PM

      Does anyone even come cloud to taking him seriously?

    Oct 25, 2015 25:23 PM

    Well if that guy is from Zimbabwe then he is low-balling because a 100 Trillion dollar note there is worth a mere 5 dollars! And that would make a ounce of gold worth….?????…..wait a second……Holy Crow……. Quadrillions or Bazillions. No idea how many because this pocket calculator I use doesn’t have enough digits but its a lot of zeros!

    How to Turn 100 Trillion Dollars Into Five Bucks and Feel Good About It
    *The Highest-Denominated Bill Ever Issued Gives Value to Worthless Zimbabwe Currency
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703730804576314953091790360

      bb
      Oct 25, 2015 25:25 PM

      For some reason people don’t seem to understand these numbers, as J Sinclair saying 50k gold.
      Your right of course Listener, but you would think people discussing currencies, economics daily would understand its not the gold getting valuable but the currency losing value.

      Economics is 95% common sense, or, so I have heard.

      The consequences of 50k gold might be considered, I guess.

    bb
    Oct 25, 2015 25:27 PM

    Actually, the first consequence I can think of is Im not trading my gold for currency at that point. lol

    Oct 25, 2015 25:50 PM

    Excuse me for being a bit thick, but last month there were a 1001 articles and TV commentary about whether the Fed was going to raise rates or not. This month it barely gets a mention – am I missing something here?

      Oct 25, 2015 25:15 PM

      BOB UK

      I do not think that you are missing anything. What we have seen (and are seeing) is nothing more than fear mongering by the media and/or so-called experts — it is being used to bypass the rational side of our brains (so the public does the realize that the forthcoming election is RIGGED: Clinton = New Age puppet; Trump = New Age puppet; Carson = New Age puppet; Sanders = New Age puppet — the horse track is brimming with ponies that are owned/controlled by the same collective of New Age handlers. Any distraction from this FACT is a much needed one (hence the fear mongering with regards to the FED – another New Age institution).

    Oct 25, 2015 25:55 PM

    Canadians Vote For 4 More Years of Oligarchy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d725jqnPY5g
    (Corbett was on the far left before he saw the light.)

    Oct 26, 2015 26:06 AM

    Jim Grant talks up bond market manipulation. Mainstream negative real rates discussed as if it were an absurdity:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-10-23/listen-to-what-jim-grant-says-about-gold-prices

      Oct 26, 2015 26:08 AM

      Negative nominal rates on treasury bills are a reality:

      http://finance.yahoo.com/bonds

      The market arrived at this all on its own, despite a relentless defence of the zero bound.

        Oct 26, 2015 26:37 AM

        Negative rate is inflationary. It has to be maintained by printing money to suppress the interest.

          Oct 26, 2015 26:16 AM

          In free market, the rate has to be positive to compensate default risk.

    Oct 26, 2015 26:15 AM

    LIKE I SAID………….IT’S ALL RIGGED !!!!!!!!!!!

    Oct 26, 2015 26:42 AM

    I am waiting for the silver’s breakout from the current range. It looks like the pressure from underneath is high. It seems increasingly harder to control. Winter season has been good for silver and gold for many many years except for last few. Demand should overcome the price control.

      Oct 26, 2015 26:10 AM

      the U.S……?

        Oct 26, 2015 26:08 AM

        In what context, Agatha!

      Oct 26, 2015 26:56 AM

      FROM RUSSIA WITH ….Love……………

    AJ
    Oct 26, 2015 26:38 PM

    Diest calling Hilary a monster????