John Rubino over at Dollar Collapse – Wed 7 Dec, 2016

Could India’s gold confiscation be good for silver?

John Rubino, editor of joins us today to discuss the recent news on gold confiscation in India. This is the not he first time that India has tried to crack down on the gold trade and holding gold however now the country is going into people’s homes and taking away their gold. I ask John if he thinks this will lead more of the Indian people to silver.

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  1. On December 7, 2016 at 2:21 pm,
    James the Lesser says:

    Short answer – No

    Just more bs narrative by the gold and silver pumpers.

    • On December 7, 2016 at 6:12 pm,
      Dick Tracy says:

      There sure is a lot of hooey, and snake oil around. Yes there is always a market for BS if you can find the right people to peddle it to. DT

  2. On December 7, 2016 at 2:47 pm,
    CFS says:

    Average Silver Price In India
    Silver (1 gram) Bar Silver (1 Kg)
    ₹ 40.65 ₹ 40,650 in rupees

  3. On December 7, 2016 at 2:53 pm,
    James the Lesser says:

    first what is your source
    second what is that equal to in US $

    • On December 10, 2016 at 5:24 am,
      Stephan B. Feibish says:

      There are probably many online currency converters. You can find one at >> currency converter >> converter. 40.65 ==> 0.60227 USD; 40,650 ==> 602.273 USD or at type “40.65 rupees in dollars” to the right of GOOGLE, left of microphone icon

  4. On December 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm,
    Tad says:

    There is no ban on gold ownership in India.
    It is inconceivable that there ever will be.
    That would be like banning coffee or bread. It’s part of their culture. The girls are covered in it from ears, nose, fingers & toes.
    It’s a central part of a family’s store of wealth too. Has been for 1000 years.
    This is a non-story. A rolling sensational click bait zero hedge rumour triggered it.
    Seriously, Modi is probably the most guarded world leader at the moment; I don’t rate his chances of survival highly after what he has done to his country. Banning most currency notes in circulation with 4 hours notice, not printing up enough replacement cash, and making it of a size that doesn’t even fit into ATMs (wtf?!) has not gone down well. Think he has enough to worry about at the moment…..
    True, the Delhi police are like ‘Serpico Era’ NYPD but an outright ban on gold ownership would lead to civil war with ONE BILLION people in the streets.
    Over 300 million people in India don’t even have bank accounts. How on earth are you gonna ban gold. Come on.

      • On December 7, 2016 at 3:36 pm,
        Tad says:

        The key phrase in this India Today headline (they love to sensationalise too) is “agricultural income”. That’s the farmers’ cash. The majority of the country’s wealth. Kilos upon kilos of gold can be held by ordinary families, bought from ‘agricultural income’… daily registered cash transactions. As can existing stockpiles of gold built up over generations. It even says so in the article.
        This is just a story about freezing assets of those that are under investigation from tax evasion… Like assets acquired through drug deals etc. along with boats & mercs.
        Raiding the big guys who spend $3M on a wedding but pay no tax is the new reality tv show the whole country is addicted to. But to think that the ordinary citizen is going to lose their family’s gold is wrong.

        • On December 7, 2016 at 4:29 pm,
          FranSix says:

          OK, thanks. But I can imagine the turd-polishing(to use an expression) news media is engaged in attempting to ingratiate itself so that this gold seizure does not become common knowledge worldwide. The confiscation of large denomination notes is bad enough, as far as I understand.

    • On December 7, 2016 at 8:09 pm,
      Excelsior says:

      Here is an editorial piece along the same lines of this discussion of the media postulating what is to come for metals buying in India. This editorial focuses on Silver becoming more of a substitution for Gold with some investors and the steady uptrend in Silver jewelry purchases over the last decade. Their thesis is that it wouldn’t take much more of a spike in physical demand to move the needle a bit, but everyone is always saying things like that 🙂

      It’s an interesting thought….but of course, it is sensationalized as well. I just thought it was worth the quick read to mull over.


      Silver Will Skyrocket If It Becomes India’s New Metal Of Choice
      December 07, 2016,

  5. On December 7, 2016 at 3:25 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    Been covered earlier..mentioned Zero hedge article….on Modi the moron

    • On December 7, 2016 at 8:10 pm,
      Excelsior says:


  6. On December 7, 2016 at 3:48 pm,
    CFS says:

    I just listened to a Trump “victory tour” speech. He scares me, It is clear that Ivanka is not only a Democrat, but a liberal Democrat and he is listening to his daughter.
    Trump is now promising free child care to everyone.

    It is absolutely clear we are going to not have any control on budgetary spending by Trump. (Airforce One notwithstanding)
    He may lower the cost of Obamacare, but he is going to spend on defense and other issues and increase deficit spending.

    • On December 7, 2016 at 4:31 pm,
      FranSix says:

      For that they need QE.

      • On December 7, 2016 at 4:36 pm,
        Nick says:

        Nope. They need financial repression. The govt builds shit, issues govt debt and then makes it COMPULSORY for instos, banks, regulated bodies (etc) to hold a certain %age of their portfolios in Govt Debt.

        Voila- bridges built and paid for and capital flows restricted.

        No QE needed

    • On December 10, 2016 at 5:49 am,
      Stephan B. Feibish says:

      “Trump is now promising free child care to everyone” I thought that’s what K-12 is.

      • On December 10, 2016 at 5:50 am,
        Stephan B. Feibish says:

        Kindergarten through High School.

  7. On December 7, 2016 at 4:04 pm,
    CFS says:

    Thought for the day:

    I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.
    Good Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

  8. On December 7, 2016 at 4:08 pm,
    b says:

    Trump could be a “shill” .
    At one time I had hope for Obama too.
    William Engdahl makes a few points @ Jay Taylors Turning Hard Times Into Good Times.

    It Begins: India Confiscates Gold, Even Jewelry, In Raids On Hidden Money
    Posted on December 7, 2016 by The Doc 7 Comments 1,913 views
    Share this post:
    india-gold“The rich will pay what they need to escape harassment; the rest will suffer.” Global financial repression picks up steam, led by India. After declaring large denomination notes illegal, India now targets gold. It’s not just gold bars or bullion. The government has raided houses, no questions asked, confiscating jewelry.

  9. On December 7, 2016 at 5:02 pm,
    CFS says:

    Meanwhile Obama is still trying to expedite the importation of as many Muslim “refugees” as possible into the US…..
    How long will it be before things like:
    are reporting happening in the US?

  10. On December 7, 2016 at 5:16 pm,
    CFS says:

    I understand why Qatar wants to invest out side Qatar.

    But why are they investing in oil? in Russia?

    Does that not seem:
    a. Significant.
    b> Strange
    Just asking….

  11. On December 7, 2016 at 6:06 pm,
    CFS says:

    All governments in the world operate under debt.
    Here is a list of those owing the most by per person of their population.


    Japan: $85,694.87 per person

    Ireland: $67,147.59 per person

    Singapore: $56,112.75 per person

    Belgium: $44,202.75 per person

    United States: $42,503.98 per person

    Canada: $42,142.61 per person

    Italy: $40,461.11 per person

    Iceland: $39,731.65 per person

    Of course each economy has different productivity, so the amount does not correlate with how close any economy is to collapse.

    • On December 7, 2016 at 8:57 pm,
      GH says:

      And then there are the unfunded obligations. I have no idea what the total including those would be for other countries, but in the US it would be several times greater than the number above. That number above seems low in any case, as it only totals about $14 trillion.

      I believe Kotlikoff’s numbers would give about $600,000 per head…whose numbers to believe? Seems it’s between 200k and 600k, at least it was a few years ago.

      • On December 8, 2016 at 6:00 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        The number for USA ….is only for the current $20 trillion debt…..

        • On December 8, 2016 at 11:32 am,
          GH says:

          Right, but even at that, it comes to about $60k per head.

  12. On December 7, 2016 at 7:39 pm,
    Dick Tracy says:

    Trump’s pick to head The Environmental Development Agency sure looks good for Northern Dynasty Minerals, it couldn’t come along at a more opportune moment, this could make all the difference as responsible development is allowed to go ahead.

    • On December 7, 2016 at 8:18 pm,
      CFS says:

      I agree, his E.P.A. head choice seems good.

  13. On December 7, 2016 at 8:12 pm,
    johnnygeneric says:

    I’ve known since the mid 90s that the Federal Government had its eyes on IRAs and 401Ks as a source of income. And I’m shocked when I mention it to others that they’ve never heard such a thing.

  14. On December 8, 2016 at 6:05 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    DEUTSCHE BANKSTERS…..records implicate more banks in silver and gold RIGGING…………:-) 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 :-)! :-)!!!

  15. On December 10, 2016 at 8:17 am,
    Stephan B. Feibish says:

    I would add. In the 1930’s gold was tied to the currency. If the price of silver goes up. Secondary silver will be coming out of the woodwork. Tableware and such. And the supply of available silver will go up.