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February is going to be very different this year for gold and silver

Cory
January 25, 2017

Today Doc and I dive into the gold and silver charts to project what we think will happen next month. The recent weakness could be projecting a slow month ahead with far less volatility than seen in February 2016. Doc continues to use silver as a barometer for gold so pay close attention to his targets.

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65 Comments
    Jan 25, 2017 25:52 AM

    Thank you,Cory and Doc

    Jan 25, 2017 25:06 PM

    Hi!
    Im very interested in this mining junior, GPY

    https://goldtadise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/GPY-w-BO-ch.png

    https://goldtadise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/gpy-2.png

    I really want to purchase this one, any clue how far down it could go for a buying opportunity? Maybe a backtest to 1 cad is enough?

      Jan 25, 2017 25:08 PM

      Hi Blue, I just released an interview with them. Please check that out and email me with any further questions.

    CFS
    Jan 25, 2017 25:21 PM

    The drop in Gold Platinum and Palladium and Silver is easily explained from Fundamentals:

    Buying recently has been coming from Asia, NOT the U.S..
    China is closed for New Year celebrations…….Hence no buying.

    India has stopped buying gold, but is still buying silver, but overall demand is still down.

    Add to that the triple witching Friday coming up, and you have the behavior we have witnessed.

    (I was caught and surprised, because I was not monitoring Chinese markets actively this week!

      b
      Jan 25, 2017 25:09 PM

      gold purchasing down in India?
      People around here were so sure the amount would increase.
      Nobody knows anything.

        CFS
        Jan 25, 2017 25:06 PM

        The government limits gold holding and confiscates too much jewelry…..policy just started.
        Limit is only a few ozs, depending on sex and marital status.

          b
          Jan 25, 2017 25:32 PM

          yupper cfs, kinda reminds a person of confiscation.

          As India is a trial run, we might expect the same thing elsewhere.
          They know what they can get away with from their Greek and Cypris antics, now they figure more out in India.

          Which Americans would give a hoot should gold be limited to collector pieces etc?
          Nobody, because nobody owns any.

    Jan 25, 2017 25:43 PM

    Doc, do you still think silver will drop to $16.00 or there about in the near future? Is the VIX or UVXY still poised to go up soon or is it doomed to continue down for the near term?

      Jan 25, 2017 25:31 PM

      The odds are very good we get close to $16.00

    Jan 25, 2017 25:50 PM

    Hi Doc, do you still think NAT will go down to 8? It cut it’s dividend from .25 to .20

      Jan 25, 2017 25:36 PM

      BB, not only will NAT hit 8 but it could move over time down to 6. The reason I say this is from a fundamental basis as well as a technical basis. The fact that the market yawned at a potential 10% dividend going forward is one thing but the other is that 2017 is potentially a rough year for the oil tanking business. One of the main reasons (among others which I won’t get into) is the large number of tankers coming on board in the near future along with the absence of scrapping of older ones.

        Jan 25, 2017 25:49 PM

        Thanks Doc, at 6 the yield will be 13%, unless they cut it again.

          Jan 25, 2017 25:23 PM

          2018 should see a better year for the oil tankers—I’m a buyer around 6

    CFS
    Jan 25, 2017 25:52 PM
    Jan 25, 2017 25:42 PM

    Doc and Cory – as usual, excellent commentary. Your explanations are clear and are contributing to my improving grasp of technical analysis. Well done, Gentlemen.

    Jan 25, 2017 25:54 PM

    Doc: ”
    Get right; sit tight”

      Jan 25, 2017 25:20 PM

      Silver; right on—plenty of time to purchase some more PM stocks in February and add to positions.

        Jan 25, 2017 25:43 PM

        Yep, I’m going to tell my lady I misunderstood, and that instead of buying her a Silver necklace for Valentines Day, that instead I bought her shares in Silver mining companies.

          Jan 25, 2017 25:01 PM

          I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes when you tell her…I tried that last year and she is just now starting to talk to me…or…was it better the other way…

            Jan 25, 2017 25:05 PM

            Gator – funny and good question there.

            On second thought, I better wait for the share prices to dip….. to buy Silver stocks and roll those profits into a nice gift on Valentines for her. Maybe a nice trip…..

            Cheers

    Jan 25, 2017 25:56 PM

    Currecide: The Globalists’ Planned Annihilation of Your Savings and Freedom

    January 25, 2017

    Stewart Dougherty is back with another guest post. I believe this is his best work to date. I wanted to share some his thoughts from out email exchanges, which are raw, unedited and quite insightful:

    I totally agree with what you wrote me previously about gold going ballistic this year. It’s probably better set-up right now than at any other time in history, for a large number of reasons. I hope it can finally overwhelm, once and for all the schemers who work to keep it down.

    I continue to think that cash elimination is the biggest story out there. It is a fraud of epic proportions, and its implications are dark and deeply disturbing. I realize that I keep coming back to this theme, but it’s because it registers with me as being so incredibly important. Sometimes, you have to say something five times before people say, “Wow. This is important. I better do something about it.” If people decide to “do something about it,” they are going to find that their options are limited. Gold being one of the few of them. Gold demand would go nuts if only the people could finally understand why they need to buy it right now. I feel a bit like Don Quixote, but I also think that the dam of realization is coming very close to breaking, and that there could be an outright flood of new, popular awareness and action.

    continued…http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/currecide-the-globalists-planned-annihilation-of-your-savings-and-freedom/

    Jan 25, 2017 25:51 PM

    Doc:

    So far the Xau is up 30% for the year since the low in Nov and the Hui up 33%. That’s actually better than last year. The fact so many people are luke warm on the metals means it going both higher and faster than what the average person sees coming.

    The mob is always wrong.

      Jan 25, 2017 25:26 PM

      Yup, Bob; we’ll see down pressure the bullion in February but I’ll be purchasing more. We are on the cusp of a bull market for the bullion and shares like we’ll never see again.

      GH
      Jan 25, 2017 25:12 PM

      I’m very bullish precious metals stocks, announced my purchase of JNUG here in late Dec. But I sold about 2/3 Monday and the rest today. Now watching and waiting to get back in.

        Jan 25, 2017 25:38 PM

        Here’s my winner for today:

        http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=BEX.V&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=13&id=p86467317591&a=497509927

        The year is off to a good start. My portfolio has already exceeded its 2016 high by as much as 18%.

          GH
          Jan 26, 2017 26:00 AM

          Very nice. If I were in quality individual stocks I would be much more willing to weather the waves. But riding the downside of a daily cycle (which may be what we’re in) is no fun in JNUG. My plan is eventually to switch into individual stocks, ride the larger waves, and not sweat the volatility.

            GH
            Jan 26, 2017 26:06 AM

            Interesting about JNUG. Last year it would have outperformed just about anything, with a >16x rise. But my observation is that these 3x funds only perform that way in a very strongly rising market. If a market gives a more gradual rise, with more pronounced ups and downs, the gains can largely be lost on the downside.

            I hope we have another meteoric rise in the near future, but since I’m not sure I’m trying to lock in at least partial profits at what look like potential tops, with a clear re-entry price that makes sure I don’t get left in the dust.

            Jan 26, 2017 26:08 AM

            Wow, I didn’t know that JNUG did so well last year – but it makes sense. You’re wise to play it carefully.

            BEX is up again and the volume is very good…

            http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=BEX.V&p=W&yr=2&mn=7&dy=0&id=p62976133046

    Jan 25, 2017 25:13 PM

    Crazy day today. I must have done 26 trades today. A lot of volatility in the after market after earnings reports. I bought and sold Qcom several times in the after mkt as sold my big At&t position twice and bought back once at a lower price and will buy back Thursday.

    Jan 25, 2017 25:15 PM

    Bought the absolute bottom in Qcom at 54.50 in the after market for my last purchase. It closed at 56.90.

    Jan 25, 2017 25:44 PM

    Doc by reasoning that we are on the cusp of a major bull market in pms, what chances do you give of silver and gold taking out their highs of 2016?

      Jan 25, 2017 25:19 PM

      About 20% and it would have to be in the last quarter of 2017

    Jan 25, 2017 25:54 PM

    Paul W, we talked in tuesdays market wrap how occasionally both gold and the US $ move in sync. Now, as if almost on cue, gold went from around $1207 down to its close of just over $1200. Whilst the dollar peaked above 100.4 and closed at just over 99.8. Both markets went down for no apparent reason. Volatility and uncertainty back en vogue???

      GH
      Jan 26, 2017 26:41 AM

      A windmill well worth tilting at! Signed.

    Jan 25, 2017 25:32 PM

    MIF January 2017: Jordan Roy-Byrne – “Building Towards 2018 Breakout”
    Jan 23, 2017 –

    This is a VIDEO & Slide presentation from Jordan showing the Big Picture view of Gold, the US Dollar, Gold against other Currencies, Gold against Bonds, and most importantly the end of the presentation is really well done with the different Gold Mining Stock analog charts, and how the Gold Mining stocks are leading and outperforming the metals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR8U84bSQYQ

    Jan 25, 2017 25:36 PM

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      Jan 25, 2017 25:45 PM

      If your software idea doesn’t work out, you haven’t lost much.

      Jan 26, 2017 26:32 AM

      great comment on the cloud……

    Jan 25, 2017 25:48 PM

    Dollar index is now below 100. Cdn dollar chart is looking good again:
    https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-cad

    Jan 25, 2017 25:25 PM

    And the odds of another positive return for gold and silver in US dollar terms for 2016?

      Jan 25, 2017 25:34 PM

      Extremely favorable.

    Jan 25, 2017 25:45 PM

    The gold miners are in a bull market when priced in dollars or gold but the junior gold miners are in a bull market even when priced in the senior gold miners. GDXJ is worth 50% more GDX than it was just one year ago.

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDXJ%3AGDX&p=W&yr=6&mn=11&dy=0&id=p91488053989&a=407352347

      Jan 25, 2017 25:13 PM

      It’s sure looks like a textbook W-shaped double-bottom to me, which is a solid pattern of support to build a new rally higher. The fact that the rally in 2016 took out so many prior peaks and troughs, and moving averages for the first time in years, was significant. Check out the end of the Jordan video above from the MIF and he points out the strength of the miners versus the metals, the further strength of the juniors in GDXJ over the majors in GDX, and goes even further to chart the outperformance of the Silver stocks in relation to the gold stocks. That’s been a point made here on the KER by multiple contributors for many years.

      Good stuff!

      Jan 26, 2017 26:13 AM

      Gold Investors Prefer Miners To Physical Gold

      Jan. 26, 2017

      Mining ETFs have seen large steady inflows since Trump’s election.

      Short sellers steer clear of large precious metal miners, but junior gold miners see average short selling hover near 18 month high.

      Perseus Mining and Premier Gold Mine are the top recent short targets.

      http://seekingalpha.com/article/4039671-gold-investors-prefer-miners-physical-gold?auth_param=c9otd:1c8k2so:b5c78ebf721e4656657e9a7124768eb0&uprof=45

      GH
      Jan 26, 2017 26:32 AM

      I notice your comments on volume in this chart. How do you interpret the volume on these ratio charts?

        Jan 26, 2017 26:08 AM

        You read it like you would if you were pricing GDXJ in dollars instead of GDX. We can confirm this by turning things around and pricing GDX in GDXJ instead of pricing GDXJ in GDX.

        Notice the huge volume in 2013 that warned of the tide turning against GDX and in favor of GDXJ (relatively, of course). The ratio went on to peak in early 2015 but volume had collapsed in a bearish non-confirmation.

        I don’t know why the volume pattern isn’t the exact reverse of the volume pattern seen on the previous chart, but, with the benefit of hindsight, we do know that we got the expected action from a standard interpretations.

        GDX:GDXJ

        http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDX%3AGDXJ&p=W&yr=6&mn=11&dy=0&id=p39237043811

          GH
          Jan 26, 2017 26:44 AM

          Excellent, thanks 🙂

    Jan 26, 2017 26:55 AM

    IEA welcomes Poland’s nuclear energy plans
    25 January 2017

    “Nuclear power could play a significant role in Poland’s energy supply, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA). The use of nuclear, it said, would enable the country to boost its electricity generation capacity from clean energy sources while strengthening its energy security.”

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NP-IEA-welcomes-Polands-nuclear-energy-plans-2701175.html

    Jan 26, 2017 26:55 AM

    No……Re newable energy at State Dept…….Entire Sr. Mgt Resigns……….