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Brien Lundin & Jeff Christian – Silver’s $60+ Surge & The “Debasement Trade” Playbook

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December 13, 2025

 

This Weekend Show is all about precious metals momentum, and the why behind it. Brien Lundin argues we’re watching the classic bull-market baton pass (silver + miners leading gold), while Jeff Christian breaks down what the data actually shows behind silver’s explosive run above $60, and why volatility could cut both ways in the weeks ahead.

 

  • Segment 1 & 2 – Brien Lundin, editor of Gold Newsletter and host of the New Orleans Investment Conference, joins the KE Report Weekend Show to break down his massive year-end issue – covering macro trends, metals and market outlooks, dozens of junior mining updates, and five new stock recommendations – while explaining why he sees silver and mining equities leading gold into a potentially strong seasonal early-2026 rally driven by the broader “debasement trade” and rising liquidity across commodities.
  • Click here to learn more about the Gold Newsletter.

 

  • Segment 3 & 4 – Jeff Christian, Managing Partner at CPM Group, wraps up this Weekend Show to break down silver’s explosive move above $60 – arguing it’s being driven primarily by investor demand and momentum trading (not fabrication demand or a true short squeeze) – while also outlining why gold has lagged, how geopolitical/economic risks could keep precious metals supported into Q1 2026, and what shifting narratives around crypto-linked gold products, central bank activity, and the need for new mining supply could mean for metals and mining equities.
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41 Comments
    Dec 13, 2025 13:31 AM

    Silver closes at an all-time weekly high for the 3rd week in a row… and yet not a post on this board. Surreal…

    https://cdn-ceo-ca.s3.amazonaws.com/1kjrfmv-Silver%201-year%20weekly%20chart.JPG

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      Dec 13, 2025 13:09 PM

      It’s like when SCZ was trading at <$0.40 not that long ago and even under $0.10 longer ago, many other examples than that but this is one I experienced on the way up.

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        Dec 13, 2025 13:47 PM

        Agreed Dan. SCZ has always had impressive torque (to the upside and downside), and tends to go to extremes in both directions. I’ve traded it for many years in my portfolio, it was my second largest position at last week’s close and has been in my top 3 all year long; and they are show sponsors of the KER, so I’m biased in those ways.

        Now Santacruz Silver has a very solid portfolio of producing assets, as well as a compelling development project in Soracaya. Arturo mentioned that they are even considering turning back on an old mine in their multi-mine complex at Caballo Blanco in lieu of these high underlying silver and zinc prices, just to further juice production. He also mentioned in the last interview here that their “eyes are open to another acquisition in the Americas” where they could bring their experience to add value. That would be interesting to see in 2026.

        Even the ride up in Santacruz Silver just over the last year has been pretty epic, going up 15X from $1.02 in late December of 2024 to $15.32 this last Thursday (those are post-consolidation numbers now, but I know what you mean about when it was a penny stock). I did trim a little of my Santacruz position back on Thursday on that big pop, strictly because it had moved up to over a 6% weighting of my portfolio again, like it has kept doing all year, and I like to keep positions weighted to the 5% range and under. I’ve got it back down to a 4.85% weighting, for now…. if silver keeps ratcheting higher it is so impactful that will keep lunging higher in reaction and I’ll have to chop it back down again. Haha!

        The only position I have larger than Santacruz Silver, at over a 5% position weighting, is Americas Gold and Silver, because I expect them to really run big in 2026 and 2027… based on all their catalysts on tap for silver, antimony, and copper.

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          Dec 13, 2025 13:49 PM

          Here is the 1-year Santacruz Silver (SCZ) chart. What a thing of beauty to behold. 🙂

          https://cdn-ceo-ca.s3.amazonaws.com/1kjsccp-Santacruz%20Silver%20-%201-year%20daily%20chart.JPG

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            Dec 13, 2025 13:51 PM

            Were there any other silver producers that outperformed Santacruz Silver this year?

            Dec 13, 2025 13:57 PM

            Maybe the only way to improve on SCZ would be with LEAP calls on CDE bought back in 2024 when it was near $2/share.

            Dec 14, 2025 14:47 AM

            Yeah, Coeur Mining (CDE) has had a pretty good run this year and the last 2 years really (until the last 2 months).

            If we go back over 2 years to the Nov 2023 low of $2.00, then it went up nearly 11.8X to the peak this October 2025 at $23.61. That’s impressive price appreciation for a PM producer of their size.

            https://cdn-ceo-ca.s3.amazonaws.com/1kjt2em-Coeur%20Mining%20-%202-year%20daily%20chart.JPG

            Dec 14, 2025 14:55 AM

            SCZ share price presently reflects Q3 earnings based upon $40 silver and trades at a PE multiple of 11.
            Most comparable mid-tier and senior producers trade at multiples over 20x earnings.

            The Q4 earnings report due late February will reflect silver north of $55.
            Presumably SCZ will then rerate even higher to match those industry peers trading at 20 plus times earnings.

            It will be epic.

            Dec 14, 2025 14:57 AM

            SCZ share price presently reflects Q3 earnings based upon $40 silver and trades at a PE multiple of 11.
            Most comparable mid-tier and senior producers trade at multiples over 20x earnings.

            The Q4 earnings report due late February will reflect silver north of $55.
            Presumably SCZ will then, FINALLY, rerate even higher to match those industry peers and their 20x earnings multiples.

            It will be epic.

            Dec 14, 2025 14:17 PM

            Hi Blazesb. Yes, I agree that when Q4 earnings get posted, it should be another catalyst underpinning a better valuation in Santacruz Silver, because of just how much higher the silver and zinc prices were in Q4, on top of the fact that Q4 is usually a heavier-weighted production quarter for the company.

    Dec 13, 2025 13:34 AM

    The Best Silver Developers Still Have Valuations That Are Lagging as the Silver Price Surges

    Shad Marquitz – Streetwise Reports 12-12-2025

    Report features Vizsla (VZLA), AbraSilver (ABRA), and Blackrock Silver (BRC)

    https://www.streetwisereports.com/article/2025/12/12/the-best-silver-developers-still-have-valuations-that-are-lagging-as-the-silver-price-surges.html

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      Dec 13, 2025 13:30 PM

      Definitely the case……just think if I told you 2 years ago silver will be over $60 then what price would you have guessed where most of these silver developers would be trading at???

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        Dec 13, 2025 13:01 PM

        Agreed big time Wolfster. For the silver stocks overall, I’d have guessed even quite a bit higher. I’d have anticipated new all-time highs to have come much sooner in the ETFs like SIL and SIL when silver just got up into the mid to high $30s, much less the $40s.

        Once Silver got up above $50 and stayed there and a number of stocks have still not made all-time highs, then it really highlighted the lagging factor in these equities thus far. Now with Silver over $60 that value arbitrage is even more apparent.

        Even with all of that said, it has still been a very solid year in the precious metals equities… one of the best we’ve had in many many years, and so we all have a lot to be thankful for.

        Gold and silver stocks smoked most of the other market sectors in 2025, which has become hard to ignore for many generalist investors.

        We need a broader participation to bring in the next wave of buying, and it does seem like that new influx of generalist capital has been showing up in the sector this year.

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    Dec 13, 2025 13:04 PM

    For anyone following the critical minerals space. I spoke at the Red Chip Critical Minerals virtual conference earlier this week, that had a couple hundred investors on it, and have a special side-link to share my speaking section that isn’t behind a paywall.

    After the conference video introduction from Dave Gentry, the founder of Red Chip, I was honored to be the opening speaker at the conference with a 10-minute timeslot; with the goal to give a rapid-fire and broad-brush introduction to Critical Minerals (rare earths, lithium, uranium, antimony, tungsten, silver, copper, etc…) sector as the lead-in for a dozen companies set up to present their corporate slide decks.

    [I got to briefly plug the KE Report and my Excelsior Prosperity channel at Substack at the end]

    https://youtu.be/DeH5_UfHDss

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      Dec 13, 2025 13:02 PM

      Hi Ex, great to see you are getting recognition in the mining industry as a keynote speaker. One product I would like to see on the governments list of 60 critical minerals is graphene. I’m sure it will be listed on the next revised list, I think you said 2028. It sort of reminds me of when you go to the farmer’s market where the granola crowd hangs out, we are living in 2025 not 1960. I just had to mention that, but anyway it was nice to hear your presentation and I’m glad you are getting exposure. You deserve it, you earned it! DT 😊

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        Dec 13, 2025 13:23 PM

        Thanks for those remarks DT. Yes, graphene would be a good one to add to their list. Maybe it is included indirectly via graphite already being on the list, which is hundreds of layers of graphene stacked up.

        Eventually, the whole elemental table is going to be on the Critical Minerals list if they keep adding more of them to their list at this rate every 3 years.

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          Dec 13, 2025 13:43 PM

          EX, pure graphene is a totally different substance than graphite, you can extract graphene from graphite but it is very expensive and time consuming process but it has impurities. Nobody has been able to produce pure Graphene until HydroGraph came along not even the Chinese. Pure Graphene is obtained by an explosion that has nothing to do with Graphite. It happens in a closed chamber with a mixture of acetylene and hydrogen. (Pure) Graphene is an element on its own and therefore should have been listed on the critical element list. DT

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            Dec 14, 2025 14:37 AM

            Thanks for that additional information DT. Maybe Graphene will show up on the 2028 list then.

    Dec 13, 2025 13:52 PM

    BRICS launch gold-backed cryptocurrency to replace the dollar

    By Ben Aris – IntelliNews • 5 days ago

    The BRICS group has launched a working prototype of a gold-backed trade currency known as the “Unit”, as the world’s leading emerging markets search for a way to ditch the dollar, the Institute for Economic Strategies of the Russian Academy of Sciences (IRIAS) reported on December 4.

    “The Unit is a digital trade instrument backed by a reserve basket composed of 40% physical gold and 60% BRICS national currencies, equally weighted between the Brazilian real, Chinese yuan, Indian rupee, Russian ruble, and South African rand. The pilot was initiated IRIAS which issued 100 Units on October 31, each initially pegged to 1 gram of gold.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/economy/brics-launch-gold-backed-cryptocurrency-to-replace-the-dollar/ar-AA1RToa6

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      Dec 13, 2025 13:56 PM

      Remember when so many critics said that the BRICS would never create a shared currency, and that it was a gold bug’s pipe dream to envision that it would have any gold backing it.

      Yeah… well, as we mentioned here many times… not only has that inevitability been both possible and probable, but it IS starting to happen in the here and now.

      I’m not sure how these nations will manage or implement this new BRIC “unit” in practice, and this is just an initial step that direction; but it’s pretty obvious that this is not good news for the US Dollar… (no surprise there)

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        Dec 15, 2025 15:09 AM

        🙂

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          Dec 15, 2025 15:18 AM

          OOTB Jerry
          Dec 09, 2025 09:49 AM
          China creates the “UNIT”…….. and backs it by 40% GOLD…..
          MERRY CHRISTMAS…….. 🙂

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            Dec 15, 2025 15:19 AM

            Stories from J THE LONG… LOL

    Dec 13, 2025 13:06 PM

    I agree with shortages being labeled as critical as most are important in production. What concerns me is our government nationalizing what may be personal property for under fair value. I f they remove people without due process, it would be less of a crime to nationalize property without due process or fair value. We will see.

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    Dec 14, 2025 14:42 AM

    Opportunities In Growth-Oriented Polymetallic Producers – Part 2A

    Excelsior Prosperity w/ Shad Marquitz (12-14-2025)

    Luca Mining (TSX.V: LUCA) (OTCQX: LUCMF)
    Magna Mining (TSX.V: NICU) (OTCQX: MGMNF)
    Cerrado Gold Inc (TSX.V: CERT) (OTCQX: CRDOF)

    https://excelsiorprosperity.substack.com/p/opportunities-in-growth-oriented-4ad

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    Dec 14, 2025 14:45 AM

    Hi Ex, I liked your write up on Cerrado Gold, it is a stock that interests me. Thanks for the information. DT

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      Dec 14, 2025 14:30 AM

      Thanks DT. Yeah, Cerrado has a lot of growth on tap the next few years from production, development, and exploration and across multiple metals.

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        Dec 14, 2025 14:19 PM

        I just went in and beefed up the section on Cerrado Gold in that article, as I was pretty tired when hit submit last night / early this morning, and then we had a power outage in our area so I decided to get some shut eye. Now with a fresh pair of eyes, I realized I could have done a better job and just fine-tuned it.

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          Dec 14, 2025 14:31 PM

          Hi Ex, thanks for the update on Cerrado. Nothing is the same anymore unless you know the source. There are a lot of fake video’s on the internet and if you want to get the truth you must go there but you must always know who you are getting your information from. DT

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            Dec 14, 2025 14:07 PM

            Agreed DT. Great point on knowing the source of the info one is ingesting.

            I felt pretty good about sourcing my information on Cerrado from the corporate presentation, their news releases, and then directly from Mark Brennan, the CEO of Cerrado. In general this is the best pathway for due diligence to get direct information.

            In contrast, when I listen to other pundits or investors theories it gets me turned around and focused on non-core things, instead of the main investing thesis. Quite often, I got positioned in companies that had great operational turnarounds, or that made significant enhancements to a resource or project economics or production throughput expansion, by blocking out all the naysayers and speaking directly with the company and finding out what the actual goals were and assessing if they were realistic or not.

            Sometimes management teams are very well intentioned, but there is a clear roadblock to their work strategy from financial constraints or experience in a given area of mining or stated versus realistic timelines, and yellow or all out red flags…. even though other newsletter writers or investors may love it.

            Then many times, I’ll find hard-working laser-focused teams, advancing a better asset or suite of assets than the market is giving them credit for, and after pulling back the layers, it still looks very compelling. Quite often I have to block out the opinions of others during the due diligence process and want to come to the conclusion to invest or not invest on my own research and risk/reward criteria. Then afterwards I get other people’s opinions and find out if they agree or don’t agree.

            Sure, there are sharp people in one’s circle who’s counsel should be valued and some people’s unique vantage point or opinion may unlock something not previously known. However, more often I have to ignore the vast majority of other opinions as they tend to be way off-base. Most of my biggest winners the last few years were on stocks that many would take a rude swipe at, only focusing on a particular challenge with one area of the business, but then ignoring all the positive progress being made in many other areas of the business that would eventually catch up and address their concern (costs, revenues, grade, deposit size, mine life, funding options, etc…). Sometimes people would make a joke about a stock in mixed company and they’d all chuckle about it, completely dismissing a stock as an investing thesis. Then over a medium amount of time that company or subsector would just smoke their company or their hot picks or area of focus, and then it would be time to chuckle on the other end of that table.

            It’s funny how many times when I’d lay out the thesis for a company to outperform in what seemed like a logical perspective, and then people that are in the industry will take swipes at the idea and list all the reasons that company or management team will be a dog, or isn’t ‘high quality’ only to eventually see that the company did actually deliver on their goals and executed on value creation and became high quality, but after running multiple-fold during the journey.

            Then once the stock is up 100%-300%, and starts getting much more recognition and broader coverage within the sector, THEN they’ll agree that it is a “good stock.”

            It’s uncanny how many people (yes even many well known thought leaders and newsletter writers) will have trashed a stock/project/team at much lower levels, when the vision was clearly mapped out… only to then jump onboard the train and celebrate a project or team and even become cheerleading shareholders once it’s becomes so much more obvious and much of the easy money has already been made.

            I guess this will always be the way of the world, but a key criteria that has served me well for a long time is to do initial due diligence strictly based on publicly facing information first, then reach out to management to clarify their strategy and talk specifics, and then decide if it makes sense to invest in. Then after that, even if I really like a stock, I’ll still use TA to look for good entries for accumulating into pullbacks or testing of support.

            Most of my biggest wins the last few years were in companies very few of the sector “experts” were even discussing or hyping, and most of them were works in progress, with a few warts and hair to deal with, but they had solid plans to address them. With certain teams I believed their turnarounds or growth initiatives would pan out, even when there were many doubters and flat out haters to contend with. Then when those teams executed and saw massive appreciation in shareprice and market cap, then the sector talking heads would finally agree… “Oh yeah… XYZ is a great project and team.” (I’d have to bite my tongue and shake my head at it all… but ultimately don’t care… to each their own).

            My only goal is to make money by taking compelling shots at good risk/reward setups and hope that there are more winners than losers, or that the winners grow so big they amortize the opportunity cost or overall costs of the losers. To do that I find that going directly to the source and blocking out the peanut gallery is crucial.

            Dec 15, 2025 15:20 AM

            Hi Ex, after reading your paragraphs above for me I would say that the most important point that you mentioned (although I like all your thoughts) is that in investing and in life it is dangerous to become one of the crowd and to always place your trust foremost in yourself and in your own thinking. DT

            Dec 15, 2025 15:18 AM

            Yes, that’s the main takeaway.

    BDC
    Dec 14, 2025 14:27 AM

    https://www.fibonomics.com/2025/12/crypto-how-deep.html
    Crypto : How Deep? : Life Story : Likely Break : Ethereum

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    BDC
    Dec 14, 2025 14:43 AM
    Dec 14, 2025 14:57 PM

    Silver weekly pitchfork…

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/yxkCHzs1/

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    Dec 15, 2025 15:29 AM

    PGE, Stillwater, bought some early this morning… great sale imo.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/j3tbVkab/

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    Dec 15, 2025 15:22 AM

    SIL:SLV tells you exactly why there hasn’t been much excitement over the last few weeks as silver itself makes new ATHs.

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    Dec 15, 2025 15:56 AM

    Silver 1 hour, pitchfork…

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/XVHy4d75/

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