Chris Temple from The National Investor – Tue 1 Sep, 2020

Copper has been outperforming gold – Is this sustainable?

Chris Temple joins me today for a broad look at the markets. We discuss the USD downtrend and different commodities, including copper outperforming the precious metals. With central banks firmly established in easy money policies there are some trends that need a little outside of the box thinking.

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  1. On September 1, 2020 at 3:17 pm,
    cfs says:

    I think it is more supply chain problems than money supply.
    Peru mining was substantially reduced from March until now.

    Housing has been extremely strong….a major user of copper.

  2. On September 1, 2020 at 5:14 pm,
    Excelsior says:

    Copper price leaps 26-month high on strong Chinese rebound
    Frik Els | August 31, 2020

    “Jonathan Barnes of Roskill said in a recent report the copper price will likely rise further towards the end of 2020, and that the current environment has strong parallels to the rebound in the copper price after the global financial crisis, thanks to massive stimulus efforts by Beijing. ”

  3. On September 1, 2020 at 5:26 pm,
    Excelsior says:

    One of my copper positions, Regulus Resources, has been on a tear recently, and rightly so as it was way oversold (like most of the sector), and they’ve been doing great exploration work to better understand their Copper/Gold system.


    Regulus Resources (REG)(RGLSF) | Episode 1. The Upside Potential at AntaKori

    Aug 15, 2019 #VIDEO overview

    • On September 1, 2020 at 5:28 pm,
      Excelsior says:

      (REG)(RGLSF) Regulus Resources TSX.V REG | Episode 2. The Upside Potential at AntaKori

      Aug 22, 2019 #VIDEO overview

      • On September 1, 2020 at 5:30 pm,
        Excelsior says:

        (REG)(RGLSF) Regulus Provides Update on Resumption of AntaKori Drilling Program

        Aug 28, 2020 #VIDEO

    • On September 2, 2020 at 6:37 am,
      David says:

      General Markets: Is this an election year?

    • On September 2, 2020 at 7:10 am,
      Excelsior says:

      It’s odd. AZM announced yesterday that they are getting ready to release their next set of assays on their Elmer Gold project in the next few weeks and then the stock sold off hard. (?)

      There was nothing negative about their release, and if anything the market should be excited they are getting ready to release more drill results, and they also mentioned their ongoing progress at their Copper/Gold projects Pikwa, Rex, and Rex South.

      (AZM) (AZMTF) Azimut Provides an Update on its Exploration Programs

      by @newswire on 1 Sep 2020

      • On September 2, 2020 at 7:40 am,
        David says:

        It appears we are in another sell the news phase with the PMs while they pump the dollar. Blackrock gold had decent results… it tried to move up but there was a steady PM walk down all day long. I have to learn to ignore the garbage in these markets.

        • On September 2, 2020 at 10:12 am,
          Excelsior says:

          Yeah, good point David. It still seems odd because that Azimut presser was an update news report on multiple fronts (oddly enough investors constantly claim they want updates and then sold on the update). There wasn’t anything that detracts from their value, and all the exploration will only ADD value.

          Yeah the Blackrock news is actually really positive now that you got me to take a look, and those are fantastic Silver grades. BRC is selling off, where other days a news release like that would have been double digit gains for them. I guess it’s sell the news time, which is what one expects in a corrective bear move.


          Blackrock Gold Makes Second Discovery Drilling 2,215 g/t Silver Eq. over 3.0 Metres Within 4.6 Metres of 1,577 g/t Silver Eq. at Tonopah West

          by @newsfile on 1 Sep 2020

          • On September 2, 2020 at 2:40 pm,
            David says:

            Walker Lane Trend, Western Nevada is also interesting.

          • On September 2, 2020 at 11:21 pm,
            Excelsior says:

            Yes, I’m a big fan of the Walker Lane trend in Nevada, and hold Gold Resource Corp, Scorpio Gold, West Kirkland Mining, and Coeur (that picked up Sterling from Northern Empire) that is right next to Corvus. My latest addition has been Newrange Gold that is exploring in the Walker Lane Trend, NV.

  4. On September 1, 2020 at 6:08 pm,
    Wolfster says:

    Drill results expected in September is only reason I can see for kodiaks recent move higher

  5. On September 2, 2020 at 5:06 am,
    larry says:

    We all know this here at KER…We also know that psychology is the shill mechanism to project realism into the theater of the macabre….This sales force makes a good living shilling medical and serving as the massive failures rate dumpster receptacle……..Disgustingly dishonest frauds working the corrupt fraudulent system……They deny this on KER and thus you know the liars poker hand…….GLTA…Use your awareness wisely……If you doubt the religion of Rockefeller medicine we need to work on you!…lolololol

  6. On September 2, 2020 at 7:16 am,
    cfs says:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is canceling some of its remaining orders for ventilators, after rushing to sign nearly $3 billion in emergency contracts as the COVID-19 pandemic surged in the spring.
    The Department of Health and Human Services issued a statement Tuesday affirming that the national stockpile has now reached its maximum capacity for the life-saving breathing machines, with nearly 120,000 available for deployment to state and local health officials if needed. Though the orders were billed as a cost-saving measure, Democrats said the cancellations show the White House vastly overspent in its quest to fulfill President Donald Trump’s pledge to make the United States the “King of Ventilators.”
    “By terminating the remainder of deliveries from these contracts, HHS is balancing federal stockpile requirements with commercial market demand for ventilators,” said Carol Danko, an agency spokesperson. “As a result, HHS is saving the U.S. taxpayer millions of dollars by halting delivery of additional ventilators that are no longer required.”
    The agency didn’t have an estimate for how much taxpayers would save by canceling the contracts because the terms and potential penalties for the early terminations were still being negotiated with the companies involved.
    HHS confirmed it was terminating contracts with ventilator manufacturers Hamilton Medical and Vyaire Medical, which will result in the reduction of 38,000 ventilators that had been scheduled for delivery to the National Strategic Stockpile by the end of 2020.
    An agency spokesperson declined to comment on the status of its largest ventilator contract, a massive $647 million deal with Philips that is now the subject of an internal HHS investigation and legal review.
    But Steve Klink, a spokesman for Philips at the company’s headquarters in Amsterdam, confirmed that its contract had also been canceled and that it will not deliver the remaining 30,700 ventilators on its order to the U.S. stockpile.
    Klink said HHS had not yet given the company any “formal reason” for the cancellation.
    “Unlike typically in the private sector, the U.S. government does not need any reason to terminate an agreement,” Klink said. “We can confidently say that we have delivered on our commitments. While we are disappointed in light of our massive efforts, we will work with HHS to effectuate the partial termination of this contract.”
    The Philips contract has been under scrutiny because the company had signed a 2019 agreement to deliver 10,000 basic emergency ventilators to the national stockpile by 2022 at a cost of about $3,280 each. But once the COVID pandemic hit, the company inked a new deal with the Trump administration to provide 43,000 of its more complicated and expensive hospital-grade models at an average cost of about $15,000 each.
    The company has said it still plans to deliver the 10,000 low-cost ventilators over the next two years under its earlier contract.
    House Democrats said they would expand their probe into the White House’s handling of the Phillips contract, which they said was negotiated by Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro.
    “American taxpayers deserve to have their money well spent,” said Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, chairman of the House Subcommittee on Economic and Consumer Policy. “Incompetent negotiations by top Trump Administration officials, like Peter Navarro, wasted hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.”
    White House deputy press secretary Sarah Matthews said Navarro “played a vital role in our coronavirus response” by helping oversee federal contracts that helped create thousands of jobs.
    “While the Trump Administration has been focused on saving lives, House Democrats continue to focus on pointless investigations,” Matthews said.
    As the virus took hold and began to spread widely across the U.S. in March, governors and mayors of big cities urged Trump to use his authority under the Defense Production Act to direct private companies to ramp up production of ventilators. At the time, the national stockpile had only about 16,660 ventilators ready to deploy.
    Trump initially resisted calls to invoke the Korean War-era production act, but at the end of March he promised to deliver 100,000 new ventilators within 100 days. The president then tasked his son-in-law, White House adviser Jared Kushner, with leading the effort. During the month of April, HHS issued a flurry of emergency contracts to established ventilator companies, as well as U.S. automakers Ford and General Motors.
    “We became the king of ventilators, thousands and thousands of ventilators,” Trump boasted in an April 29 speech.
    But by the time the new machines were being delivered to the stockpile in the early summer, most doctors were moving away from the widespread use of ventilators in all but the most critically ill COVID-19 patients due to high death rates for those put on the machines.
    The AP reported in May that the administration had issued contracts for delivery of nearly 200,000 ventilators by the end of 2020 — roughly twice what experts then predicted the country would need.
    GM said Tuesday it has finished making all 30,000 ventilators under its $489 million contract. Ford announced earlier it had finished making 50,000 ventilators for the government at a cost of $336 million.


  7. On September 2, 2020 at 8:09 am,
    cfs says:

    California just passed SB145, which allows offenses NOT to be treated as sex offenses if the age differential is 10 years or less.
    i.e. An 18 year old can rape an 8 year, but it is no longer a sex offense under CA Law.
    Those Democrats are truly evil.

    Digging into Biden’s past disgusts me more and more….e.g. support for Iranians early in this millenium. (At a time when Biden’s mind was almost working).
    Soros was a traitor even back then.

    • On September 2, 2020 at 8:45 am,
      David says:

      My expectation is that it is still a criminal offense, but the requirement to report as a sex offender may have changed. The other issue which is not clear is if Juvenile statutes have been altered. They may only be talking adult offenders and adult Criminal Code. Don’t go yelling at me as I am the messenger. I do not know the specifics of something you posted.

      • On September 2, 2020 at 9:18 am,
        cfs says:

        You sre correct, it can be charged as assault.

        However, I believe there is something more heinous about sexual assault as opposed to battery.

        • On September 2, 2020 at 10:17 am,
          Wolfster says:

          Being Canadian I don’t follow things as closely as most Americans but I believe your example of an 18 and 8 year old is not accurate. I believe it’s based on over the age of 14 for the victim

        • On September 2, 2020 at 10:21 am,
          David says:

          Most States have eliminated “assault and battery” and use the Model Penal Code which redefines assault within several levels depending on the degree of touching and injury. Never the less, most of the sexual assault issues arise under the “Statutory Crimes” and the adult crimes. Statutory crimes are aged base and/or competency. The problem comes up with a 16 year old with a 14 year old or 17 year old with a 15 year old where both are near the lower and upper limits of Statutory Rape. The law says they are guilty automatically even if they are boyfriend/girlfriend and acting consensual. The glitch is not the age of consent but labeling one as a sex offender for life. That may not be the intent of the statute, but more likely to protect children that are not considered adults and competent under the law whether they are or not.
          The second issue is High School and College age students attending parties where drug and alcohol usage is common and they have sex which may not be mutual once they return to control. There are no mitigating circumstances allowed for a perpetrator taking advantage of another who is under the influence of some substance. That is usually a question for the jury…but again, conviction results in life time reporting as a sex offender. Those in the above categories may not be the same kind of sex offender as a sexual predator with mental illness assessment. That is probably somewhat the issue in California…and around the country.

          • On September 2, 2020 at 10:26 am,
            David says:

            sentence #2: place “not” before “the adult crimes”.

  8. On September 2, 2020 at 8:14 am,
    cfs says:
  9. On September 2, 2020 at 8:37 am,
    cfs says:

    For something no one knows….
    Acording to my research, Kyle Rittenhouse, a now famous AR-14 user now sitting in jail, is distantly related to the very first director of the U.S. mint.
    David Rittenhouse was this first director, who caused the first U.S. silver dollars to be minted.

    (If you have one of these dollars, it is now worth about $ 10 million in good condition.)
    Talk about inflation !

  10. On September 2, 2020 at 8:40 am,
    cfs says:

    On October 15, 1794, Henry Voigt, the Chief Coiner of the United States, hurried nearly 2,000 silver coins to the desk of David Rittenhouse, the Director of the United States Mint. That day marked a milestone in the making of a country: Two years after Alexander Hamilton established the Mint under President George Washington, the first dollars had been minted.

  11. On September 2, 2020 at 9:01 am,
    larry says:


    Lancet Study Finds US Has, By Far, The World’s Most Overpriced Medical Care
    Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
    by Tyler Durden
    Wed, 09/02/2020 – 02:20

    Submitted by Eric Zuesse, originally posted at Strategic Culture

    The medical journal, The Lancet, is one of the world’s Big Three scientific journals of medicine; that’s the triumvirate of authorities for physicians worldwide, and the other two are the Journal of the American Medical Association, and the New England Journal of Medicine. On August 27th The Lancet published “Measuring universal health coverage based on an index of effective coverage of health services in 204 countries and territories”. Here is the visual that’s in it, which shows the United States as having, by far, the world’s costliest medical care, at around $9,000 per person per year, and yet as having lower quality of health care than virtually all other industrialized nations do:

    Here is another such study, showing the same thing, and calculating it more simply:

    What explains this?

    Quite simply, the United States is the world’s most corrupt nation, and medical care is such an extreme necessity when a citizen needs it, so that they’ll pay whatever the system charges them for it — and investing in healthcare products and services is therefore enormously profitable in the United States. Actually, the only other market-sector that competes with it for providing simultaneously high returns and low risk (the combination that offers the best of both worlds to investors) is consumer staples, such as foods, which likewise are necessities of life. When people are desperate, they’ll pay, whatever the cost, because these are things they don’t just want — they need. Here, from Maksim Papenkov’s award-winning 6 February 2020 paper, “An Empirical Asset Pricing Model Accommodating the Sector-Heterogeneity of Risk”, is his sector-specific calculation of stock-market profitability during 2000-2018, showing that “HC” Health Care, and “CS” Consumer Staples, were the best at combining low risk with high returns, during that 19-year period:

    (“CD” there is Consumer Discretionary and includes Automobiles and Hotels. It’s the only sector that has higher returns than Health Care, but those returns are twice as risky. The S&P500 have lower returns than Health Care and slightly higher riskiness. At the opposite end, “IT” Information Technology is both the riskiest and the least profitable; and “F” Financials are the second-worst sector for investors. The most-profitable sectors are the necessities, the sectors that take the most from the most-desperate.)

    In May 2017, Axene Health Partners published their actuary, Chris Slaybaugh’s, study, “International Healthcare Systems: The US Versus the World”, which stated:

    The United States is the only industrialized country in the world that does not have Universal Health Coverage for all citizens. … Rather than one system, United States citizens and residents are insured under a variety of sometimes overlapping systems. The United States is also the only developed country where a significant number of citizens are permitted to be uninsured and where a person’s employment can determine whether they have insurance and what insurance they have. … The extent to which medical bills contribute to bankruptcy is hard to tease out from other factors, but even those who are skeptical of the claim that medical costs cause the majority of bankruptcies concede that they are a significant contributor.13

    In the rest of the developed world, by contrast, medical costs are rarely or never cited as a driver behind personal bankruptcy.

    In fact, CNBC headlined on 11 February 2019, “This is the real reason most Americans file for bankruptcy” and reported that,

    Two-thirds of people who file for bankruptcy cite medical issues as a key contributor to their financial downfall.

    While the high cost of health care has historically been a trigger for bankruptcy filings, the research shows that the implementation of the Affordable Care Act [“Obamacare”] has not improved things.

    What most people do not realize, according to one researcher, is that their health insurance may not be enough to protect them.

    While Barack Obama was running for President in 2008, he was promising to provide Americans with a “public option” in order to reduce profits for health insurance companies and thus lower costs, but he dropped that proposal immediately when he won the 2008 election, and he never pushed for it (not even to use as a bargaining chip with the Republicans in shaping his Obamacare). (In fact, Obama chose the conservative head of the Senate Finance Committee, Democratic Senator Max Baucus, to draft his Obamacare, because Baucus was against there being a public option, and because the progressive Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy’s Health, Education & Labor Committee had just drafted an Obamacare with a public option — Obama refused to have Kennedy draft his healthcare legislation. Obama was actually against there being a public option; only his public rhetoric was for it. Joe Biden is apparently now following the same tactic, of lying promises to the public, and true promises to his billionaire backers, to win the White House.) Obama promised the public “universal coverage”, which means 100% of the population covered, like in all other advanced economies, and his Obamacare increased the percentage insured from 84.5% when he came into office in 2009, to 87.7% two years after Obamacare started in 2013 — around 3%, by 2015 (which was after two years). That was still far short of the promised 100%. He was lying through his teeth in order to win election, and the ‘news’-media still hide (instead of expose) the fact that he did, and that he was actually an agent of the billionaires. He’s now the big hero among Democrats, because maybe Trump is even worse. Trump is up-front about his fascism. And Trump’s opponent now is another hypocrite (after Obama), Obama’s V.P., Joe Biden, who was the U.S. Senate’s leading Democratic Party segregationist and won his nomination by claiming to have been instead a civil-rights champion. Everything in U.S. politics is bait-and-switch. That’s the reality in America’s ‘democracy’: a bait-and-switch ‘democracy’, which serves actually only the wealthiest few. The politicians who are elected serve only the wealthy and well-connected.

    America is the most libertarian, or “neo-liberal,” of the advanced industrial nations, and this is why it has the world’s most overpriced medical care. It provides the most liberty for the billionaires.

    One of the few extremely bold Americans who rose high in the U.S. healthcare system and tried to tell the public how intensely corrupt it is, has been Marcia Angell, M.D, who held numerous prestigious posts in the U.S. medical system, and she was for a while the Editor-in-Chief of the New England Journal of Medicine. On 15 January 2009, Dr. Angell headlined “Drug Companies & Doctors: A Story of Corruption”, and wrote:

    Conflicts of interest pervade medicine. … It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine. … So many reforms would be necessary to restore integrity to clinical research and medical practice that they cannot be summarized briefly. Many would involve congressional legislation and changes in the FDA, including its drug approval process. But there is clearly also a need for the medical profession to wean itself from industry money almost entirely. … Breaking the dependence of the medical profession on the pharmaceutical industry will take more than appointing committees and other gestures. It will take a sharp break from an extremely lucrative pattern of behavior. But if the medical profession does not put an end to this corruption voluntarily, it will lose the confidence of the public. …

    She had said, nine years earlier:


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    If we had set out to design the worst system that we could imagine, we couldn’t have imagined one as bad as we have. … Our health care system is based on the premise that health care is a commodity like VCRs or computers and that it should be distributed according to the ability to pay. … That market ideology is what has made the health care system so dreadful, so bad at what it does. … That is a fundamental mistake in the way this country, and only this country, looks at health care. … The only way to both reduce cost and increase access and quality is to change the system, to scrap it and start over. … I would pay for health care in a single payer system, and what goes into that pot can vary. In Germany, employers have to contribute to that pot. I don’t think that’s a good idea. I would rather see it come straight out of tax revenues.

    Experts who are that public-spirited and knowledgeable about the system should be appointed by U.S. Presidents to lead the FDA and the Department of Health and Human Services, but the billionaires prevent that (of course).

    On June 27th, NPR headlined “After Pushing Lies, Former Cigna Executive Praises Canada’s Health Care System”, and interviewed a retired PR executive for America’s health insurance companies, who said that maybe the work that he had done smearing Canada’s socialized health insurance — “to spread misinformation about Canada or use cherry-picked data and anecdotes” so as to deceive Americans to accept America’s existing medical system — was partly to blame for America’s having performed significantly worse than Canada had done on the coronavirus crisis. (As of 29 August 2020, Canada had 3,378 cases per million and was the 76th worst out of 215 countries, whereas U.S. had 18,522 cases per million and was the 9th-worst. On deaths, Canada was the 27th-worst at 241, whereas U.S. was the 11th-worst at 564.)

    America’s billionaires derive the vast majority of their net worth from stocks (capital gains and dividends), and from interest that’s paid to them; and, since nothing does this for them better than healthcare investments, the current for-profit system in health care is terrific for them; and these few hundred people, billionaires, extract this wealth from the hundreds of millions of Americans, the general public, and want to continue doing so, and they consequently finance politicians such as Joe Biden and Donald Trump (and their predecessors, such as Bush and Clinton), and they also set up ‘charitable’ foundations, and donate to medical schools, so as to inculcate this libertarian belief, not just into the public, but especially into the students and professors, who receive that trickle-down from them, as employees and future employees. While many in academe are against it, they’re not the ones who get advanced to the prestigious and high-paid positions. “He that pays the piper calls the tune.” It’s top-down (aristocracy), and it only pretends to be bottom-up (democracy). And, so, the corruption continues, and Americans die younger, and poorer, because of this aristocratically controlled system. It’s the American way. It’s the American system. Of corruption. Americans call it “capitalism.”

    Of course, another area in which the U.S. Government is extraordinarily corrupt is its Military-Industrial Complex; and, on August 28th, a former top official of the NSA, Bill Binney, provided, online, an in-depth description of what he personally knows about that. His personal knowledge is enormous concerning within the Government itself, but not outside it — i.e., not regarding the corporations and billionaires who control the economic rewards system that the top public officials, who typically are agents of the “Deep State” (the billionaires), are serving. However, what he says there is informative and highly reliable regarding the way that the Government’s bureaucracy itself functions, and he is extraordinarily honest about the intense corruption within the official Government. He makes clear that the U.S. Constitution is being systematically and routinely violated by top U.S. officials; so, the U.S. Government routinely violates the U.S. Constitution, in this ‘democracy’, where the system functions like clockwork, for the billionaires.


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  12. On September 2, 2020 at 11:31 am,
    cfs says:

    We knew Hillary was a crook, stealing from the Clinton Foundation.
    We know Biden is a crook, using blackmail against Ukraine and getting dodgy deals for his son from China.
    Well, surprise, surprise, should we expect Kamala Harris to be cut from the same cloth?